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a week or two weeks ago that this conversation came up during a re-.
cent telephone call.. the jehovah's witnesses perspective on the matter on a number of occasions, i recall getting into arguments with my.
JWs do not see/want to see the flaws in their religion because they are indoctrinated to think like children. When I realized this, after visiting lots of sites like this one, I kept reminding myself to think like an adult. It worked and is working.
Also Paul Blizzard on his website said you have to be very firm with JWs when you want to say no - that works too
Jesus Christ teaches us to think like adults. He is testable in human experience as far I'm concerned.
what god do 'we' believe in?
i am a believer at the moment i think.... .
firstly we are directed away from questioning just how god came into existance - why?
Hi
In true jw mode (hard to get rid of). At least using a different bible
Then consider, if he's such a 'loving' God - where is he now? why are we paying for adam and eves mistake? where is the forgiveness?Consider an answer from the message bible (biblegateway)
6-18 God makes everything come out right;
he puts victims back on their feet.
He showed Moses how he went about his work,
opened up his plans to all Israel.
God is sheer mercy and grace;
not easily angered, he's rich in love.
He doesn't endlessly nag and scold,
nor hold grudges forever.
He doesn't treat us as our sins deserve,
nor pay us back in full for our wrongs.
As high as heaven is over the earth,
so strong is his love to those who fear him.
And as far as sunrise is from sunset,
he has separated us from our sins.
As parents feel for their children,
God feels for those who fear him.
He knows us inside and out,
keeps in mind that we're made of mud.
Men and women don't live very long;
like wildflowers they spring up and blossom,
But a storm snuffs them out just as quickly,
leaving nothing to show they were here.
God's love, though, is ever and always,
eternally present to all who fear him,
Making everything right for them and their children
sexual child abuse is the flavor of the day.
but to me the whole jw religion is child abuse.
sometimes through the parents directaly, i.e.
Good thread vomit
When my children were small - 2 & 8 - I was told by the well meaning elders (directed of course by the borg) that I needed to be seen to be smacking my children at the kingdom hall to make them sit quietly throughout the meeting. At our hall children had also to stay awake for the entire meeting. I don't know perhaps my children were particularly naughty, but another sister who's children had grown up said `you have to wallop them'.
I was so upset I anonomously rang the NSPCC. They warned me that they would take my children away, they said if I did that it would come out eventually.
I also rang a wise elder from another cong. Fortunately he told me that if spanking did not work for me I shouldn't use that form of discipline.
At this time I also became very ill and could not attend many meeting and one or other of my children would stay home with me.
Its appalling the situation the borg puts parents in and how that is magnified by despotic elders
please delete if already posted!.
http://www.thespectrum.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=2006611090326 man turns himself in to authorities, confesses to committing alleged crime.
by laura duncan .
Hope the children get the outside help they desperately need
i want to contact my adult children and let them know i do love them.
they only 2 out of 4 called me and when they thought i would die from cancer wanted to get something.
i do really love my kids ages 26 to 32 and am so depressed tonite.
Hambeak if you do use them
and Mary
re my previous post about the essential oils - a word of caution - only use in a burner or a few drops in bowl of just boiled water to inhale
i want to contact my adult children and let them know i do love them.
they only 2 out of 4 called me and when they thought i would die from cancer wanted to get something.
i do really love my kids ages 26 to 32 and am so depressed tonite.
love from me too ....... identify with you ......... I have children who will soon shun me. On a practical level am using lots of lemon and grapefruit essential oils. They are very uplifting and have an antidperessant effect. Alexander technique too puts me in a neutral calm happy renewed frame of mind.
Am thinking of u and praying for you
bernadette
no, i'm not talking about being gay, although if i was, i'd come out about that too.
no, i'm talking about coming public about having been a jw and explaining why i feel the jw is a dangerous cult.. now, i don't have a huge readership on my blog, but i've never talked about my jw past to anyone outside of that organization or this board.
i would love to hear any advice from those who have been out and successfully dealing with the mental and emotional abuse that the jw poured out.
am going to have a look. It needs to be done abandoned because jws go door to door. In my case I became a witness at 17 and believe that I was stalked into the truth - the pressure the visits were so great. I remember one time I'd decided to go swimming instead of going to the meeting. When I got home my study conductor was outside my door litrally waiting for me (she lived nearby). I was her first responsive biblestudy and she was very zealous
my partner hambeak is a great guy.
i have known him over 20 years.
he is the most kind and gentle person i know.
Hugs for hambreak from me too. Am reading a very enlightening book on this subject right now - The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. Try and get hold of a copy its very healing
has anyone read dawkins new book the god delusion yet?
he discusses the creation book on pages 119-121. he says that he discusses this particular tract only because it has had such a wide circulation - no fewer than 6 of which have been sent to him personally.
well i think he has at least 7 copies by now because i personally know one witness who sent him one following his recent the roof of all evil?
Hav just started reading it. if this thread is still running when I've finished I'll tell u how I feel. (Do fading jws ever lose their conscientiousness. If so how long does it take? am enjoying real research though)
"through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.
" romans 5:12. this verse has been used to prove that adam was responsible for sin and death.. from a christian standpoint, this is true.
did adam really know the full effects of eating the forbidden fruit?.
that's alright .. go to bed. Didn't believe in anything at first, but then started reading the bible in the light of other commentaries. Apologise if I sound self righteous
