We had a major talk about JWs today.
I couldn't use the UN or pedophiles, as this is 'outside' information, and she would never belive me. Then she would question my source, and I'd be killed by elder firing squad.
We talked about the ark, and how it's not possible. She just ignored me, wanting 'hard evidence'. I should google it or something.
We talked a lot about variations in genetics. She said there are 3 races, white, black, and asian. I think hispanic and middle eastern are also races, but that wasn't an issue. Her theory is that jehovah 'gave' use different races and eye colors (at an unknown point in time after adam and eve) because he liked diversity.
Then we went indepth to, of all things, slantyness of eyes. My whole point was that to get enough different types of horses (i chose them at random), you would need many breeds to get the diversity of today. That would take up SPACE that would be premium on an ark. And since JWs now belive in microevolution (they put it in quotes...It's the same thing as selective breeding, but they wont admit it), but not evolution, I told her that zebras could not appear without other zebras, or AT LEAST two breeds somehow magically capable of spawning zebras after several generations.
Anyways, back to slanty eyes. My arguement was that japanese people have different eyes from chinese. Since "asians are all one race", and there can be no mutation, how did japanese get different eyes?
She squirmed her way around, and I gave up on it, because she wouldn't back down, despite not understanding the subject.
I had her on evolution though. I got a book for homeschool that has an entire chapter on the subject. And neatly summed up right there is several pages of how scientists have come to evolution as a conclusion. Naturally, she DID NOT HEAR A WORD, and irritated me. I was smart-ass about it though, so I don't entirely blame her :P .
Now she eats me alive.
She tells me that they are right, because only they do what the bible says. They are the only ones going door to door across the planets.
I stumbled around and made an ass of myself.
So I pull out my 'secret weapon'. The one thing that can destroy a JW in one shot. If 1914 was the year they were to have the 'proper food at the proper time', why were they teaching lies like the cross, blood, etc.
First off, I stumbled around that too, because I couldn't find a way to effeciently convey my words (english is not my first language, baby-talk is).
She tells me that "they were right about the big things, wrong about the little thigns. Only the big things matter".
I realised it had holes in it, and part of the reason I used it is to refine it. Now i'm going to abandon it as my 'secret weapon'.
I was scared for a little while. She actually had me beliving her! I of course clung to my science book to retain sanity :P .
Now I want something I can really argue with. Something that I could think up, so no stories or whatnot. Since I can't get on apostate websites (or the internet at all :P), I can't use anything that I couldn't think up myself.
I've got her beat in science. I happen to be good at it. I've read through the evolution magazine a thousand times, and have it analized in every way. I have deemed it foolish. My only safe haven for my own anti-jw beliefs is evolution.
And it has me feeling I might be wrong. Even though I can feel deep down I'm not.
But I DID take some good advice. Afterwards, I hugged her and told her I loved her. I want her to know that despite driving me insane, depriving me of my human rights, and dragging me through those meetings, I still love mommy.
These things I write are painfully wrong. I hope you get some sort of sick masochistic pleasure out of torturing your eyeballs reading through them :P .
Anony-Mouse
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Mom nearly ate me alive!
by Anony-Mouse inwe had a major talk about jws today.
i couldn't use the un or pedophiles, as this is 'outside' information, and she would never belive me.
then she would question my source, and i'd be killed by elder firing squad.
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My brother called
by AnonyMouse inmy brother calls my mom all the time.
he did some vicious things to her in the past.
one of her 'war stories' was that she went to the convention black and blue because he had beaten her up (a son to his mother).
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Let's go with the "sense of humor" thing instead of conceited :P .
I never said I DIDN'T have teenage superiority complex, just not on this issue.
I realise that I don't actually know everything. Not even close. But what little I do know makes me proud of myself. And so long as I don't LIFT OFF from my overinflated head, I'll be fine.
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Give yourself a JW nickname
by JH inat the meetings, i didn't make many comments so i'll call myself:.
brother mute.
give yourself a jw nickname.
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Brother Nowait notbaptised.
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My brother called
by AnonyMouse inmy brother calls my mom all the time.
he did some vicious things to her in the past.
one of her 'war stories' was that she went to the convention black and blue because he had beaten her up (a son to his mother).
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This is the same person, different name. God killed my normal account, apparently.
"I take it at the tender age of 16 you have left the religion already?
BTW I love your online name - its so cute! (sorry if it wasnt meant to be cute)"
I've left the religion mentally. I'm forced to go anyway physically. And I don't mind if you think the name is cute or not :P . I'm secure in my masculinity ^^ .
"I know you personally "held back" but NOBODY should be laying a hand on that woman and if someone else does and YOU dont do anything about it...then you are culpable."
I hate myself for thinking that way, but it was a tough time for me mentally and and with hormones. None in our family lived close enough to us, and she was without protection.
And, if that comment is targetted at me...I was 6 at the time. I was scared and hiding, and didn't understand what was happening. And my brother could have killed me because I was so much smaller. There is a gap in our ages, he's in his late twenties, and I'm 16. -
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did you listen to the kingdom songs on CD?
by dobbie injust wondering if anyone else had the collection of kingdom melodies on tape or cd and if you ever listened to them?i ordered the whole set of 9 cds 2 yrs ago and donated over 100.00 for them!
!was just thinking i could have bought a nice winter coat with that!i used to play them at home all the time, even in the car or when we had the group meeting at our house.i used to love one particular song cos it had a full orchestra and would play it over and over again.some of them were pretty cheesy though - one song was sung in opera style but not the words she she 'ahd' it all the way through - horrible!was anyone else as sad as me and did you actually pay for them?i regret it now cos they're all in the attic and can't bear to use them ever again..
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I used to listen to the...pink book is all I remember it by...before I went to bed every night.
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Who is your Best Friend?And why?
by megsmomma ini ask this because i have a hard time making and keeping friends since i have left.
my husband is my best friend now....but he is my only friend.
i do have some wemon friends, but i don't like to get too close.
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I have one best freind. And a very good freind.
Both are from australia, and I've met neither of them.
Matt I met on the internet playing video games. We joke and talk about EVERYTHING. I unloaded all my feelings onto him before I found this site, and he took it like a trooper. Candace is the girl I jokingly flirt with :P . She's cute and funny, but just so happens to live on the complete opposite side of the planet.
As for face to face freinds, I too was betrayed by a close JW freind of mine. And recently, I've found out I don't WANT any JW best freinds, and that's all that is available too me. I have a hard time trusting, but I think I'll be okay. -
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Is manned space exploration a waste of money?
by free2beme ini was watching a program the other day, and it mentioned some interesting things about exploring space.
1. nothing has been found on other planets that we need or would benefit from.
rather the opposite, we have found hostile environments that would kill us.. 2. the cost to get a man to these places is astronomical, and not something that would reap benefit to our planet.. 3. so far, nothing within reasonable traveling distance has shown itself worth an effort that would require man, and would not be done easier with machine.. so with this in mind, other then the travel we see with the space shuttle in our own orbit, that has shown some medical breakthroughs and so on.
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Anony-Mouse
Resources cannot be "lost". They just turn into a simpler state. That's entropy.
We just use some energy, and tada, more resources. And we happen to have a super furnace relatively near us that is pumping out some massive energy (2, if you count the earth's core).
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Possibly overdone topic - panda world
by XU inwhat did you think you would be doing in the paradise?
like after all the garbage was picked up and the 2nd dead were buried?
i thought i would get a house with a creek running through it and play with animals.
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Neither I nor my family ever really thought about it in the strict sense.
We just assumed we'd get that big mansion wherever. Like, driving out in service, it's constant for people to say "Ooh! I want that house in the new system!" or "That church will make a good Kingdom Hall in the new system."
We never thought about having to bury litterally BILLIONS of dead people. Babies, men, women, and worst of all, cute girls.
I always "knew" I'd have lot's of exotic animals, and always be happy. And for a brief period (I began to realize it was a lie right after the time I started to like girls ^^), living forever with that special someone.
I never knew if I'd have children, what with over population and all. But of course, I rested easy with my mom's 'flawless' assessment: "There is enough land for 20 billion people to live off of. That means all those resurected, and us will have enough food in the new system."
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Words That Are Not In The Bible
by Nosferatu ini'd like to compile a list for my next blog, but i would love some help.
they can refer to any religion you like.
here's a start:.
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Homosexual.
I've heard people say that the translation "Men who lie with mean" pertains to male prostitutes working for money, not actual gay people. And that the church made it seem like that to persecute those people that were different.
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kn37 - 50 bible studies
by Zico inat the service meeting tonight the service overseer announced that the british bethel had received 50 requests for bible studies since the campaign.
this surprised me, though i suppose it's not really a huge amount, i wouldn't have expected that many.
also, our cong has run out of tracts, and we're only half way through the campaign, with lots of territory still to cover.
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Didn't you know?
They round up.
The actual number was 3. The rounding up is to inspire the greater flock. God said they could.