comments you will not hear at the 01-14-07 wt study (december 1, 2006, pages 25-29)(love neighbor).
review comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
Thanks,Blondie I enjoy your summary of the WT.you covered all my points.
The R&F will comment that their are good clean worldly people but we must avoid them,why because the GB/FDS aka dictator says so.
If GOD is impartial and loves all the people of the world which are his family.Why did he have the Israelites KILL their neighbor.
it does but doesn't seem to be in trouble monetarialy.. what is going on.
are they ok but seeing the writing on the wall with lawsuit or something else.. or, are they broke and just hiding it..
Km Dec 2006.Question Box in part....Would it be appropriate to arrange yard sales or other fund-raising events to help the congregation........The 2 issue of the Wt August 1879,said about our refusal to imitate the churches and solicit funds:Zion's WT has,we beleive JEHOVAH for its backer,and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support......bah,bah.bah if god fails to provide necessary funds,we will understand it to be the time to suspend the publication.bah,bah,bahLet each one do just as he has resolved in his heart bah,bah GOD loves a cheerful giver...
Contributions are not solicited;neither are they given with the idea of obtaining something in return.the end.
So why do they request/demand funds by passing resolutions every six months.The resolution is in a form of a question, a vote is taken and also how many are present.Also it has to be passed and seconded.
there has been a lot of discussion about the claim that the gb feel they have fullfilled their obligation to preach.. this would be no surprise.
jesus said if you want to really do what is right you need to sell your property and give to the poor.
and then... you could follow jesus.. after pentecost there was an arrangement where an individual could sell his property and give the proceeds to the apostles.
The GB/FDS say they follow J.C. ex, of going door to door and it still is the most effective way of making disciples.They get their slave drivers (d.o.,c.o,elders) to constantly hammer the R&F that this is the most important work.Also they lay the guilt trip that your life depends on it.When you work with these (R&F) in service they could care less about making disciples.If they were serious they would be out there every day skip coffee breaks and you would see results.It's a joke,if someone is interested in a bible study they try a pass it off to someone else.Look,if I was in marketing and spent all this money on training,meeting.C.A.,D.C. and sad's.I would expect results.They (GB) push hard but they are wasting their time.Which is ok for people of the world.Many here have mentioned there are more effective ways of preaching and I agree.
PS They like to use Jesus example of preaching yet they like to use modern conveniences ie computers,mp3,cars ,airplanes.Have you ever seen a GB come to a convention on a donkey.
how, though, do we show our love for jehovah?.
how we show our love for jehovah.
q7, 8) how can we show our love for jehovah?.
Enjoyed great post.
Q12/Q14 God requires..Orders to do something.No human parents requires or wants that kind of love.
Q15 Read the bible..it teaches us about God.Let's see no bible for 2500 years of man's history,than in bits and peaces for 1600 years and written in such a way so no one could understand it, that we need a FDS to explain it.
Q16 Jesus ministry.He promised to bring an end to sicknes,sorrow and death.We have been waiting for almost 2000 years.Many promises,short on keeping them.
was he married to his own mother?
q1) why should we accept divine discipline?.
does that mean if a jw married their ex-stepmother or ex-stepfather today, they would be dfd?.
Very good analysis of wt.
Solomon.Do as I say not as I do.GB..do as we say not as we do.Holy Spirit must of left GB for their secret sins, ie. UN and other sins which we can't even fathom.Can you just imagine the comments at tomorrows study.YUCK,YUCK
bobld
the door to door work is a sham.. the central activity of the watchtower bible and tract society is not spreading their so-called "messege" about the kingdom of jehovah established in the heavens in 1914. that's a load of propaganda.. the door to door activity is feckless in producing converts.
in fact, it is an immense failure of mammoth proportions!.
but, it is a diversion.
Very good post.They truely are a rich corporation.Like any corporation they have down sized to max their profits ie layoffs at Bethels,shut down farms..imagine they can't produce their own food cheaply.Look at the cash they receive via Insurance,Bank Accounts,Real Estate Wills and Trusts,etc,etc If 6000 Willed their Estate of $1million,thats $6billion and 3 million give $1thousand that another $3 billion plus look at their grab at conventions.All their request for money at congregation meeting when they annouce their resolutions ever 6 months.I am not sure why they request for a vote and how many are in attendance.Maybe something to do with the law of the land.Take their Real Estate ..Take an Assembly Hall of 10 thousand SQ.FT.@ $100 per sq.ft.is $1 million that low.Look at all the Real Estate they have.The mags/book placement is pennies,but like they say, take care of the pennies and the dollars will look after themselves.I do not know what they do with all the money,but they sure are RICH,RICH.They have to push R&F for new suckers to hand over their money and the scheme has been working very good for them.Look, this Corporation has been successful for over a hundred years of brain washing people into their believe system.Some of us can see their scheme but can't get out because of family.I know this post is to long but it's therapy.
bobld
until 1879 no one understood the bible properly,until god apponted a fds/ibs.who would feed the domestics the proper food at the proper time.
(this food got rotten at times)then in 1918 jesus christ came for an inspection and found that the food was rotten and put the leaders in jail for 9 months(somehow this fits in with bible prophecy per fds/gb,i just don't know how)than in 1931 they changed their name to jw and in 1935 they began feeding the jonadab's i guess these jonadab's were getting very hungry.after they fed the jonadab's, they started to feed the worldly's.they said the time remaning for this system was short and would end before the generation that saw the world events of 1914 would be alive to see the new system and god's new kingdom ruling on the earth.that generation passed on,so in the wise wisdom of the gb/fds/wts in 1995 defined the length and meaning of the generation.they may have missed some scriptures where god defines the length of days for man.
(maybe the light wasn't shining or was blurry).in 2000 the gb/fds/wts said the end was very near,deep.deep,deep into this system.in fact "we,are no longer just around the corner,we are around the corner,in fact we are in the last hour".they mentioned 6 signs why the end was near(see 2000 wt&km).one on those signs were the gb/fds was getting very old and would not be around much longer.so they are training the jonadab's,well only special one to take over the feeding chores once all 144k are sealed in heaven.however,if the end doesn't come they the 144k will materialize and help with the sherphering work.
To Yaddayadda
RE:"best go away and do a bit more research sonny"
My point was not to detail all discrepancies and faults with WBTS.Most have done a great
job on this forum.It was just a fun thing.As far as the 144k materializing,well the latest
WT, I believe has something about these providing spiritual light from heaven
until 1879 no one understood the bible properly,until god apponted a fds/ibs.who would feed the domestics the proper food at the proper time.
(this food got rotten at times)then in 1918 jesus christ came for an inspection and found that the food was rotten and put the leaders in jail for 9 months(somehow this fits in with bible prophecy per fds/gb,i just don't know how)than in 1931 they changed their name to jw and in 1935 they began feeding the jonadab's i guess these jonadab's were getting very hungry.after they fed the jonadab's, they started to feed the worldly's.they said the time remaning for this system was short and would end before the generation that saw the world events of 1914 would be alive to see the new system and god's new kingdom ruling on the earth.that generation passed on,so in the wise wisdom of the gb/fds/wts in 1995 defined the length and meaning of the generation.they may have missed some scriptures where god defines the length of days for man.
(maybe the light wasn't shining or was blurry).in 2000 the gb/fds/wts said the end was very near,deep.deep,deep into this system.in fact "we,are no longer just around the corner,we are around the corner,in fact we are in the last hour".they mentioned 6 signs why the end was near(see 2000 wt&km).one on those signs were the gb/fds was getting very old and would not be around much longer.so they are training the jonadab's,well only special one to take over the feeding chores once all 144k are sealed in heaven.however,if the end doesn't come they the 144k will materialize and help with the sherphering work.
Until 1879 no one understood the Bible properly,until God apponted a FDS/IBS.Who would feed the Domestics the proper food at the proper time.(this food got rotten at times)Then in 1918 Jesus Christ came for an inspection and found that the food was rotten and put the Leaders in Jail for 9 months(somehow this fits in with Bible prophecy per FDS/GB,I just don't know how)Than in 1931 they changed their name to JW and in 1935 they began feeding the Jonadab's I guess these Jonadab's were getting very hungry.After they fed the Jonadab's, they started to feed the worldly's.They said the time remaning for this system was short and would end before the generation that saw the world events of 1914 would be alive to see the new system and God's new kingdom ruling on the earth.That generation passed on,so in the wise wisdom of the GB/FDS/WTS in 1995 defined the length and meaning of the generation.They may have missed some scriptures where God defines the length of days for man.(Maybe the light wasn't shining or was blurry).In 2000 the GB/FDS/WTS said the end was very near,deep.deep,deep into this system.In fact "we,are no longer just around the corner,we are around the corner,in fact we are in the last hour".They mentioned 6 signs why the end was near(see 2000 wt&Km).One on those signs were the GB/FDS was getting very old and would not be around much longer.So they are training the Jonadab's,well only special one to take over the feeding chores once all 144k are sealed in heaven.However,if the end doesn't come they the 144k will materialize and help with the sherphering work. These are just a few of my thoughts.
PS.In 1918/1919 when J.C. came for an inspection he caused a schism.
over the years, the society has included half a page in their annual guidelines when planning for and attending the district convention.. in particular, they have been very insistent that only hotels on the recommended lodging list be used.. .
the language in this month's km is even more insistent than last years.. .
here is the text in full, with the original emphasis.. .
Further to my last post.They WTS does not want you to bring food or coffee in the commerical logo
container,EX.No Starbucks coffee in a Starbuck cup.They want you to transfer in to a brown bag.
So no one knows whats in the bag.Kind of dumb is it not,could be a bomb..booommmmb.
Also they make a big stink about when and where the convention is held every year.And
no one should make any hotel room reservation because you don't know what city the convention
is being held, RIGHT.WRONG.Good old faithfull INTERNET,just go online and see which weekend
and city the rooms are getting booked.Usually the 3/4 day bookings is a give away.I have tried
this "tried and true method" it works.Do this before the end of the year good luck.
over the years, the society has included half a page in their annual guidelines when planning for and attending the district convention.. in particular, they have been very insistent that only hotels on the recommended lodging list be used.. .
the language in this month's km is even more insistent than last years.. .
here is the text in full, with the original emphasis.. .
The WBTS negotiates with hotels and get FREE ROOMS (KICKBACKS)
They cover it up and the R&F don't know anything about their scheme.I was aproached to
book one of these free ROOMS however, I was told to make the payment directly to
WATCHTOWER.I ask how did this work and was told because WTS books so many rooms
they get a certain amount GRATIS. In any case I would be paying for the rooms so just think
of this as a donation to the WBTS.I just could not believe the under hand scheme.Why not let the poor have the rooms
