for those of you that have survived and come through the great tribulation of having been a member of the wts and still have a faith in god, how do you now interpret the lords prayer?.
just what do you think jesus meant when he said "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"?.
What is God's will in heaven for heaven's sake.Who are we to tell the Big guy what to do.Look Billions of billions have been telling him for 2000 years.It's about time we send him some hearing aids. Maybe on the next space shuttle.Because obviously his hearing is shot.Maybe things are worse in heaven than on Earth,so we better stop this nosense of praying for something that we will regret.
Bob
i've commented offhandedly about this subject a number of times in the past, but it is worth discussing because it speaks volumes about the jw religion and the cognitive dissonance that is endemic to it.. dubs are never satisified with their "current light.
" they weren't satisfied four decades ago when i was active, and they are not satisified now.
they won't come out and say that of course, but we all know it is true.
You are correct the wbts is false in it's reasoning.In the June 1/08 wt they ask "Does it matter how we worship God? We may ask ourselves:What kind of worship does God approve?How can I draw close to God?And what should I personally do to worship God in an acceptable way?"Jw are happy to deceive you.
You see there is nothing in those questions about Jesus,why he came, why he died for us sinners.
Bob
at the end of april,2008 the gb/fds( god's spokesperson/ channel of communication) cancelled/deleted one meeting where we are to gather,incite and love one another.. the bible,god's holy word at hebrews 10:24,25 let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works not forsaking the gathering of ourselves,as some have the custom,but encouraging one another,and all the more so as you should behold the day drawing near.. so the gd/fds says we do not have to gather together.do not have to incite to love.we have the custom of forsaking one another.the day in not near.. yet god's word says the exact opposite.. bob.
ps:when the annoucement was made the r&f said "was that not wonderful of the gb/fds of this new provision".sorry i'am confused who is right god or the gb/fds..
At the end of April,2008 the GB/FDS( God's spokesperson/ channel of communication) cancelled/deleted one meeting where we are to gather,incite and love one another.
The Bible,God's holy word at Hebrews 10:24,25 Let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works not forsaking the gathering of ourselves,as some have the custom,but encouraging one another,and all the more so as you should behold the day drawing near.
So the GD/FDS says we DO NOT have to gather together.DO NOT have to incite to love.We have the custom of forsaking one another.The DAY in not near.
Yet God's word says the exact opposite.
Bob
PS:When the annoucement was made the R&F said "was that not wonderful of the GB/FDS of this new provision".Sorry I'am confused who is right GOD or the gb/fds.
hi randy.
some stats you may not have.
latest stats from elders meeting [usa].
My understanding the 2000 did not leave voluntarily but got to boot.They thought they would be there until the new system.AHAHAHAHAHAH.
B
this topic, i'm sure, has been discussed many times, but today i am really contemplating the concept of god.. i remember vividly the old testament; the israelites slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children at god's direction at jericho, leaving no one alive.
i remember thinking then as a child how cruel that was.
there are many other examples.. then reading the news today i read a section in the world news about india.
Could it be a time factor. God went on a vacation and let mankind to take care of the Earth and has not returned.Much like parents go on vacation and have the children take care of the home.Well you know what happens if their are teenagers,they will invit all their friends over and destroy the house.However in the OT God should of been tried for his criminal acts.No one has the right to kill their children just because they are their parents.
B
an elder mentioned yesterday in casual conversation how the end must be close 'because this is the first time in human history that a black man will probably be president of the us.
all other forms of government have had their day, now that a black man will be president, the angels, mankind and satan cannot claim that jehovah didn't give every possible chance for humans to make it without his rulership'.
almost verbatim!
He meant a Black President in the USA was going to be Armegdeon for the people of the USA.
B
q: what's it like to be satan?.
a: it sucks, man.
i get blamed for everything that goes wrong.. q: you sound bitter.. a: what are you?
Farkel,can you ask Satan if he lied to JayCee about promising him all the Kingdoms of the World.He, Satan did not own or have all the Kingdoms, he just said he did.You know a lier can promise you anything and many will believe it.Much like GB/FDS say the end is near and all J.W. a few bricks short of a full load believe it.
B
the gb are the computer programmers.what they program into the computer it will not change until they the gb re-program the computer (j.w.)..
as an example: gb program the computer that a+b=c.
c=the 1914 generation will not pass away before the end.computer (j.w.
The GB are the computer programmers.What they program into the computer it will not change until they the GB re-program the computer (J.W.).
As an example: GB program the computer that A+B=C. C=the 1914 generation will not pass away before the end.Computer (J.W.) will not change unless re-programmed.The GB re-programs the the computer to A+B=D. D = Is now the anionted generation.Computer (J.W.) have a new formula and won't change.
The best example of J.W. are like computers is when someone is disfellowshipped.You see no matter how long someone loved someone,showed compassion,suffered through trials together.Went on family picnics,laughed and cried together.The loving cherished embrace of a loving daughter or son.When the GB program the J.W. computer not to show love to that person, the computer (J.W.) follow the instruction to the letter.Computers (J.W.) have no fellow feelings.
Conclusion: J.W. are programmed robots by the G.B./F.D.S.
Bob
god's guidance = only the guidance of the wts/fds/gb.
when, though, do we need that guidance?
god's guidance = wts/fds/gb guidance.
Thanks again Blondie
Q7 Ask the 14 million children under 5 years of age that die each year.
Q15 You the GB/FDS better admit and confess your SINS or be disfellowshipped for your association with the United Nations.(scarlet-colored beast).You must be humble, repent and turn around.
Bob
this magazine was disturbing to me at the time, but i lost track of it and only recently found it .
this is exactly as it was printed, no photo shop, i am not that clever.. it is credited to a newsagency, jan banning , panos pictures - so i do believe that she was a real child prostitute .
there is something that gets to me even now about this picture.
That picture is a real J.W. girl that the GB/FDS turned into a prostitute.They debase,degrade,dishonor an innocence little girl for their selfish interests.I guess pedophilia is /??///?????.
I can't imagine making my daughter doing things like that.Yet these same people will condemn someone if they go to a movie that depicts child prostitute.I must admit such movies should not be made.
B
PS:Most pictures of people in the WT/A are their own J.W. people.See WT.-----DVD,VCR'S and their explaination of how they incorporate these into their pubications.
