Never could and never will.The day they compared themselevs as not being
like other religions only the fine out they were worse.
Bob
Posts by bobld
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43As a JW Did you Feel you Could Fully Trust the Elders ?
by flipper ini know for many of the 44 years i was in the jw cult from birth - i felt i could.
or should i say i was conditioned to feel that " i should " trust the elders.
as jehovah's witnesses we were all told the elders were " crags in a waterless country " who would be a " spiritual stronghold " for us.
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"Millions Now Living Will Never Die" was told to be literally true
by VM44 inin the 1920's the watcthower had the "millions now living will never die".
in the proclaimer's book there is a photo of a bible students book booth with a sign that said in large letters, "millions now living will never die!
this is literally true.
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People with an IQ of room temperature believe this to be true.In this century comments
made at meetings and book study groups,said what the FDS said back there is applicable(true)
today.Because their are millions now living today(2008) that will never die before this systems end.
Yeah and in 100 years from now they will say"the FDS was/is right millions now living will never
die before the end." However,by than there should be 144,000 partakes of wine/bread.Oh.maybe
they will see the Lord coming in the clouds.
Bob
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Interesting comment by a JW regarding the new schedule
by wha happened? ina buddy of mine who is still serving and doesn't treat me like a leper was chatting with me about the new bookstudy arrangement and the meetings in general.
he stated that the way the parts are set up now, that simply winging the answers from the km or other study material, is next to impossible.
he went on to state that he understood that the society is pushing for more pre-study.. at the risk of sounding bad, are there any thoughts on a push to get rid of the fence sitters?.
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Are we obedient to the faithful slave with this new arrangement.Because of high costs are we not thankful
for this arrangement(see2009 yearbook).However,they have a very short memory because there were
congregations (rural) that combined many meeting to save on gas,weather conditions etc.What happened
they shut them down and sold the kingdom hall.Why,because at that time it was 3 meeting at the times
that the faithful slave said,no if buts or questions.You do as we say.
Bob
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Feb.1,2009 WT
by bobld indoes god have a name.in the watchtower "a person may be called sir,boss,dad,or grandpa,.
depending on the circumatances.but his personal name reminds us of everything we know.
" they try to incorportrate this illustration with the importance of god's name.. "how can you really know god without knowing his name?it is important not only to know but.
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Does God have a name.In the Watchtower "A person may be called Sir,Boss,Dad,or Grandpa,
depending on the circumatances.But his personal name reminds us of everything we know
about him." They try to incorportrate this illustration with the importance of God's name.
"How can you really know God without knowing his name?It is important not only to know but
also to use that name."Than they quote John 4:23,John 14;6,John17;3 and Luke 10;22. in
each of those scriptures Jesus referred to God as Father.
When I call my Grandpa..Grandpa or my Dad-- Dad it reflects my personal relationship with
them.At family get togethers,be it Xmas,Easter,family re-unions we all refer to Grandpa/Ma or
Dad/ Mom.They did this or that and the many things.Grandpa/ma have been gone for
over 50yrs and Mom/Dad over 30yrs.After all this time we still refer to them as Grandpa etc.
And not as Grandpa B.Smith or Dad J.Smith.Just imagine around the Xmas table asking
Mr.B.Smith please pass the butter,Mr J.Smith please pass the bread instead of saying
Grandpa/Dad.Does using a name tell, if a persons knows something about him?Also
even with work mates we always refer to our parents as Mom/Dad and the know
who we are talking about and likewise when they talk about their parents as Mom/Dad
we know who they are talking about.What did Jesus say?"Our Father........" Yes a very
personal relationship with his Dad.
Sorry for the double space and the rant.
Bob
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-01-09 WT Study (OPPOSE DEVIL)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 02-01-09 wt study (november 15, 2008, pages 27-31 )(oppose devil).
review comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
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Canada-Mother kills 12 yrs old daughter
by bobld init is hard to imagine a mother killing her daughter.who would or could do such a detestable act.. i can not comprehend just a terrible deed.the girl's father said"the center of my happiness is.
shattered and hopes and dreams wiped away in one selfish act.
" no doubt many will talk about.
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It is hard to imagine a mother killing her daughter.Who would or could do such a detestable act.
I can not comprehend just a terrible deed.The girl's father said"The center of my happiness is
shattered and hopes and dreams wiped away in one selfish act." No doubt many will talk about
this tragedy.
How about another tragedy that very few talk about (Religion).How many children are sacrificed (killed)
each year in the name of religion by listening to their leaders.How many thousands are ostracized
by not listening to their religious leaders.How many of these are killed by way of suicides because
they were ostracized.Yes it is hard to comprehend a mother killing her own daughter,Yet these
religious leader don't give a second thought to all the killing of poor innocent children.I cannot
believe .............................
Bob
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What Have YOU Learned About Jehovah's Witnesses That You Didn't Know Before?
by minimus inanything come to mind??
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Just listening to the elders prayers and the comments at the meetings. Makes one think that the G.B. is God.Also the
average J.W. has a very short memory and will believe everything that the G.B. says.Plus all the bs that I cannot
erase w/o getting in family trouble.
B
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2009 yb of JW
by bobld init was brought to my attention,how jehovah's is blessing the new arrangement.
of re-assigning of bethel family members (more like fired members).ex.
a single sister,jessica,visited her assignment and spent two futile weeks looking for housing.. the day before she was to return to bethel to pack her things,she was overjoyed when a local.
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It was brought to my attention,how Jehovah's is blessing the new arrangement
of re-assigning of Bethel family members (more like fired members).Ex."For example,
a single sister,Jessica,visited her assignment and spent two futile weeks looking for housing.
The day before she was to return to Bethel to pack her things,she was overjoyed when a local
elder offered her a small house that she could rent for a modest amount."
Do they encourage single sisters to apply to Bethel?
What gives,a single sister assigned to a congregation and no one puts her up.
She has two weeks to find a place come hell or high water,because sister your apartment
at Bethel has been sold.So come back and get your things or they will be in the garbage.
The local elder is in the renting business,why is he not simplifying his life.Yet this elder
will get on the platform and talk about materialism.The big question is why did the local
elder wait for two weeks before offering this single sister a place to rent.God almighty,
the love and compassion this local elder showed this sister and takes money from her.
I am sure the sister saved a lot of money while she was at Bethel.Now why would the GB/FDS
print such story in their yearbook.What point are they trying to make?
The poor sister,spent two futile weeks looking for a place to stay and this selfish local elder
has a house for rent and does not tell the sister.With the economy the way it is,he could not
rent his house.So why not get some money out of this poor sister,shame,shame,shame local
elder/GB/FDS.
Bob
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Stock Market Awake 2000
by bobld inis buying stocks the same as gambling?
no per gb/fds.however,are the being truthful or are they using this as an excuse/justification of making big money on the stock exchange.as we know many have made big bucks (i think this incudes the wts) at the expanse of others(losers).the wts defends the stock market as being a part of a company and treat it no different than an employee working for (part of ) a company.
(see past wt/a).. help me understand this statement from awake.
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Just to add to the above.
The R&F of Jehovah's Witnesses sincerely believe with their whole heart,mind,body and soul that the Governing body and the faithful and discreet slave of the Watchtower Bible and tract Society (GB/FDS/WTS) is God's visible spirit-directed organization on Earth.Also they believe the publications by the GB/FDS/WTS are spirit-directed.So when the GB/FDS/WTS approves of investing in the stock market(per their publications) the R&F of J.W. believe that it is ok to invest in the stock market.
However,in view of what has happened to the stock market in 2008,many brothers and sisters are saying are saying such things as:.........Corruption.Greedy,deceptive brokers,scam/con artists,ponzi schemes, materialism,Satan's organization,etc.etc.
In view of what the brothers and sisters are saying about the stock market,should not a judical committee be formed and these brothers and sisters be disfallowshipped because the are being critical of the GB/FDS/WTS.Also are they not causing division in the congregations.They are obvisiously going against the Faithful Slave and the spirit-directed organization.
Footnote:Will we see a correction in the Watchtower publication or new light in view of what has happened in the stock markets.
Bob
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Stock Market Awake 2000
by bobld inis buying stocks the same as gambling?
no per gb/fds.however,are the being truthful or are they using this as an excuse/justification of making big money on the stock exchange.as we know many have made big bucks (i think this incudes the wts) at the expanse of others(losers).the wts defends the stock market as being a part of a company and treat it no different than an employee working for (part of ) a company.
(see past wt/a).. help me understand this statement from awake.
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Is buying stocks the same as gambling? No per GB/FDS.However,are the being truthful or are they using this as an excuse/justification of making big money on the stock exchange.As we know many have made big bucks (I think this incudes the WTS) at the expanse of others(losers).The WTS defends the stock market as being a part of a company and treat it no different than an employee working for (part of ) a company.(see past wt/a).
Help me understand this statement from Awake."No human knows the exact time for Armageddon,so a christian is obliged to make plans for the months and years ahead until the battle of Armageddon brings on the end to this world.People who are not successful financially-live beyond their means and are victims of materialism because they strive for what they cannot afford"
Those who have been in the truth a very loooooooooooooooooong time will remember the wise wisdom of the GB/FDS although I'am not sure if they were called that back there.
Bob
PS:So way back many many years it was aright to save for the future,because the end was when.I forgot with all the foreclosers and low real estate and all the money that the WTS has on hand they should get a whole lot of cheap land at the expanse of some poor souls.