They have a way out.I believe it's in the wt2000 or 2001 the elders will be the ( forgot exact word) to lead the sheep on the Earth.Not sure how they explain that some of the anointed will be on the Earth when the end comes.
Bob
Posts by bobld
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20How will the Watchtower change as OLDER MEMBERS DIE OFF?
by nicolaou inthe 'old-timers' generally carry a congregation.. .
i grew up in a cong' with six members of the 'anointed' - only one remains, a lovely lady with genuine warmth and interest in people who is now in a nursing home.. .
what happens when the depth that these individuals bring is lost?
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Torture
by bobld intorture:repugnant,abhorrent,immoral...acts of cruel,inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment wheather physical ot mental(destroys the heart and soul).mental torture,however can leave scars just as deep and long-lasting as missing fingernails of physical torture.psychological torture is used to cause suffering to alter the behavior of the person(includes such things as shunning).when such acts are committed by or at the instigation of or consent or acquiescence of an official or person acting as official capacity of(.........)they do not treat people with humanity.this is,the fact or quality of being humane:kindness,mercy,sympathy,etc.. there can be much more said and how it affects thousands of people (substitute a word for torture) and you know what i mean.. bob.
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Torture:repugnant,abhorrent,immoral...acts of cruel,inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment wheather physical ot mental(destroys the heart and soul).Mental torture,however can leave scars just as deep and long-lasting as missing fingernails of physical torture.Psychological torture is used to cause suffering to alter the behavior of the person(INCLUDES such things as SHUNNING).When such acts are committed by or at the instigation of or consent or acquiescence of an official or person acting as official capacity of(.........)they do not treat people with humanity.This is,the fact or quality of being humane:kindness,mercy,sympathy,etc.
There can be much more said and how it affects thousands of people (substitute a word for torture) and you know what I mean.
Bob
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-11-09 WT Study (Christian Hope)
by blondie inhttp://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.
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bobld
Thanks, Blondie for your hard work.Will they ever get it right.They know scripture but do not know the meaning.
Bob
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JW's Defend 607 BCE Teaching!
by tryingtoexit inmy father (who's an elder) just sent me this link...and i'd like to get yall opinions on it before i call him back:.
apostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.
if 607 bce is wrong, then the seven times prophecy ending in 1914 ce would be wrong also.. .
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bobld
See the book "Battles of the Bible" -----Fall of Judah 588-586 BC. As for Bible interpetation and dates,the GB/WBTS are about as swift as the Sadducees when they Q'd J.C. about the resurrection in Luke ch.20.Just look at their history 'the generation that saw 1914 would not die before the end" but it doesn't stop there, the list goes on and on with their wrong dates.
Bob
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2nd Coming of Christ
by bobld inrev ch.1: 7 see,he comes amid the clouds!every eye shall see him,even those who pierced him.does that mean j.c.'s 2nd coming is after the resurrection?otherwise how could those who pierced him,see him.do not give me the b.s.
that those who pierced him refers to persecution of the anointed ones,that were identified in 1879,1914,1918,1919,1935 2000,2007,2008,2009.or "see" in the sense of"discern"as told by the wbts.. bob.
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Rev Ch.1: 7 See,he comes amid the clouds!EVERY eye shall see him,even THOSE who pierced him.Does that mean J.C.'s 2nd coming is after the resurrection?Otherwise how could those who pierced him,see him.Do not give me the B.S. that those who pierced him refers to persecution of the anointed ones,that were identified in 1879,1914,1918,1919,1935 2000,2007,2008,2009.or "see" in the sense of"discern"as told by the WBTS.
Bob
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Notes From the Annual Meeting - Oct 3, 2009
by daniel-p infrom a little bird... .
interesting portions highlighted.
notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .
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bobld
USA Memorial attendance over 50k more from last year:DUH 4% increase in new pubs=over 40k.Canada:Had to raise roof and reinforce floor for new press----Good future planning or should I say lack of planning,You can't even plan for future expansion let allow teach the Bible.
The ANOINTED that saw 1914,what about all the anointed from 33ce, what did they see.
The chinese D.C. so how many Chinese attendanted the Australian Chinese D.C. Are their that many Chinese in AUZZY land that they had their own D.C.You do not give a rat's Ass, that it cost each individual a lot of hard earned cash to attend your money making D.C..Why not use modern technology to B'cast your propanganda to the few chinese in AUZZY.
Bob
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IS THERE ANY JUSTIFCATION THAT THE GOD OF THE BIBLE KILLED BABIES .??
by Mr. Majestic in.
assuming the bible true:.
thinking of the story of the way that jehovah, through samuel and saul, dealt with the amalekites; with the discovery of the criminal gene, could this justify the god of the bibles actions against these nations, when he put out the order to not have compassion for them, and the israelites were ordered to put to death, man as well as woman, child as well as suckling...??
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I agree with cantleave.However,what was the time frame?: Did not the killing happen 430 years later, when Israel left Egypt?Why not kill the original Amelikite pop.Than that brings it back to cantleave answer.
Bob
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Are you scared to watch the news?
by wantstoleave ini'm a newbie as far as delving into information other than wt based, and have only just started posting on this board...so maybe the following thought will be old hat to some of you, not a concern or perhaps something you occasionally think about.
but, are you scared to watch the news?
purely for the fact of seeing things go on in the world that would prompt you to think about your jw upbringing?
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bobld
You are so right,when I read the WATCHTOWER or AWAKE it scares to BEE GEE'S out of me.To think that I got suckered into this mind control Org.that cost me a shit load of trouble,man oh man it makes you shake in your boots.The NEWS is childs play.What people fail to see about todays news is the many ways it is b'cast,T.V.,internet,ipod.youtube,etc 24/7.
Also when some trifle thing happens today,which happened 100's of time before the WT witnesses will say"did you hear on the news today such and such happened, boy we are in the end, the end is so close,bah.bah bah."They wish for the end but they are only wishful thinkers.Do not fall for thier propanganda.
Bob
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November 15 Watchtower (Study Edition) - discourages showing affection to your spouse
by CrazyBlonde inanother gem from the same edition - article to be studied december 28 - january 3 (which most will miss lol coz of summer vacation) entitled "what do your prayers say about you?
" page 6 para 19 reads:.
19 when we are being represented in public prayer, we need to display reverential "fear of god.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-27-09 WT (BOLDNESS)
by blondie inhttp://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.
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bobld
Thanks,Blondie and I hope you get well soon.
Para 1 Good news: no suffering,no pain,no sorrow. Para 2 I came to put,not peace,but a sword.I came to cause division.So which is it,come on make up your mind.
Bob