the november 1st public wt has an article on "do you need to learn hebrew and greek?
" funny is it not that they feel we do not need too.
anywho on page 21 of said wt.
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.How so?.Could the WBTS be referring to a baptized 11 year old child of Jehovah's Wintnesses.Also they describe life force found within all living creatures.see below.
Just to add another comment on the same mag.Myth 1: "At death a person ceases to exist" They back it up with Ecc 9:5,10.However,Myth 2: "In reality,one of two destines awaits the righteous"
Bob
i am glad we went to the meeting this morning.
it was about how jehovah's witnesses have always taught the paradise earth for most of obedient mankind.
it mentioned how early christian leaders such as origen and augustine introduced neo-platonic thought into early christianity and allowed ideas about an immortal soul to crowd out what the bible says about the earth.
Para 7 "theologians twisted the Scriptures to make texts that describe the heavenly hope"
Note some of their (wbts) references go back over 1500 years.Look how the wbts twists Scriptures just less than 15 years ago they said that the Generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the end would come.Less than 10 years they said the end would come some because the gb/fds is getting old and some would be on hand before the end.Just to name a few twisted ideas from the wbts.
I must add, I do not know by what name this religion is called because of the many names and corporation associated with it.
Bob
the 'old-timers' generally carry a congregation.. .
i grew up in a cong' with six members of the 'anointed' - only one remains, a lovely lady with genuine warmth and interest in people who is now in a nursing home.. .
what happens when the depth that these individuals bring is lost?
They have a way out.I believe it's in the wt2000 or 2001 the elders will be the ( forgot exact word) to lead the sheep on the Earth.Not sure how they explain that some of the anointed will be on the Earth when the end comes.
Bob
torture:repugnant,abhorrent,immoral...acts of cruel,inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment wheather physical ot mental(destroys the heart and soul).mental torture,however can leave scars just as deep and long-lasting as missing fingernails of physical torture.psychological torture is used to cause suffering to alter the behavior of the person(includes such things as shunning).when such acts are committed by or at the instigation of or consent or acquiescence of an official or person acting as official capacity of(.........)they do not treat people with humanity.this is,the fact or quality of being humane:kindness,mercy,sympathy,etc.. there can be much more said and how it affects thousands of people (substitute a word for torture) and you know what i mean.. bob.
Torture:repugnant,abhorrent,immoral...acts of cruel,inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment wheather physical ot mental(destroys the heart and soul).Mental torture,however can leave scars just as deep and long-lasting as missing fingernails of physical torture.Psychological torture is used to cause suffering to alter the behavior of the person(INCLUDES such things as SHUNNING).When such acts are committed by or at the instigation of or consent or acquiescence of an official or person acting as official capacity of(.........)they do not treat people with humanity.This is,the fact or quality of being humane:kindness,mercy,sympathy,etc.
There can be much more said and how it affects thousands of people (substitute a word for torture) and you know what I mean.
Bob
http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.
Thanks, Blondie for your hard work.Will they ever get it right.They know scripture but do not know the meaning.
Bob
my father (who's an elder) just sent me this link...and i'd like to get yall opinions on it before i call him back:.
apostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.
if 607 bce is wrong, then the seven times prophecy ending in 1914 ce would be wrong also.. .
See the book "Battles of the Bible" -----Fall of Judah 588-586 BC. As for Bible interpetation and dates,the GB/WBTS are about as swift as the Sadducees when they Q'd J.C. about the resurrection in Luke ch.20.Just look at their history 'the generation that saw 1914 would not die before the end" but it doesn't stop there, the list goes on and on with their wrong dates.
Bob
rev ch.1: 7 see,he comes amid the clouds!every eye shall see him,even those who pierced him.does that mean j.c.'s 2nd coming is after the resurrection?otherwise how could those who pierced him,see him.do not give me the b.s.
that those who pierced him refers to persecution of the anointed ones,that were identified in 1879,1914,1918,1919,1935 2000,2007,2008,2009.or "see" in the sense of"discern"as told by the wbts.. bob.
Rev Ch.1: 7 See,he comes amid the clouds!EVERY eye shall see him,even THOSE who pierced him.Does that mean J.C.'s 2nd coming is after the resurrection?Otherwise how could those who pierced him,see him.Do not give me the B.S. that those who pierced him refers to persecution of the anointed ones,that were identified in 1879,1914,1918,1919,1935 2000,2007,2008,2009.or "see" in the sense of"discern"as told by the WBTS.
Bob
from a little bird... .
interesting portions highlighted.
notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .
USA Memorial attendance over 50k more from last year:DUH 4% increase in new pubs=over 40k.Canada:Had to raise roof and reinforce floor for new press----Good future planning or should I say lack of planning,You can't even plan for future expansion let allow teach the Bible.
The ANOINTED that saw 1914,what about all the anointed from 33ce, what did they see.
The chinese D.C. so how many Chinese attendanted the Australian Chinese D.C. Are their that many Chinese in AUZZY land that they had their own D.C.You do not give a rat's Ass, that it cost each individual a lot of hard earned cash to attend your money making D.C..Why not use modern technology to B'cast your propanganda to the few chinese in AUZZY.
Bob
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assuming the bible true:.
thinking of the story of the way that jehovah, through samuel and saul, dealt with the amalekites; with the discovery of the criminal gene, could this justify the god of the bibles actions against these nations, when he put out the order to not have compassion for them, and the israelites were ordered to put to death, man as well as woman, child as well as suckling...??
I agree with cantleave.However,what was the time frame?: Did not the killing happen 430 years later, when Israel left Egypt?Why not kill the original Amelikite pop.Than that brings it back to cantleave answer.
Bob
i'm a newbie as far as delving into information other than wt based, and have only just started posting on this board...so maybe the following thought will be old hat to some of you, not a concern or perhaps something you occasionally think about.
but, are you scared to watch the news?
purely for the fact of seeing things go on in the world that would prompt you to think about your jw upbringing?
You are so right,when I read the WATCHTOWER or AWAKE it scares to BEE GEE'S out of me.To think that I got suckered into this mind control Org.that cost me a shit load of trouble,man oh man it makes you shake in your boots.The NEWS is childs play.What people fail to see about todays news is the many ways it is b'cast,T.V.,internet,ipod.youtube,etc 24/7.
Also when some trifle thing happens today,which happened 100's of time before the WT witnesses will say"did you hear on the news today such and such happened, boy we are in the end, the end is so close,bah.bah bah."They wish for the end but they are only wishful thinkers.Do not fall for thier propanganda.
Bob
