Who decides these calculations.Where do they get weeks=days=years. These people calculate the precise date of 1914 however, they DO NOT know when Jesus Christ was born.Prove it in the Bible.
Bob
from all of my research so far on the 607 issue the only argument that jw's have for it is the 70 year period counting backwards from 537bce.
as 539bce is the accepted date for cyrus conquering babylon, why do they say 537bce is the date he released the jews and not 538bce or 536bce for instance?.
paul.
Who decides these calculations.Where do they get weeks=days=years. These people calculate the precise date of 1914 however, they DO NOT know when Jesus Christ was born.Prove it in the Bible.
Bob
it has been interesting for me to learn the various ways that the jws twist the scriptures to fit their own dogma.
(of course jws aren't alone in that, but that's another topic.
) two quick examples of jws not following or going beyond the bible are blood and birthdays.
Is a person who upholds bible principles a bad (association) person?
Bob
PS:I meant to say, association with Jehovah's Witnesses spoil useful habits.
What.s with the BIG green head in the bush on page three.
B
i never thought we'd be here.
after a long discussion last night, my wife now wants to know the 'other side of the story'.
what made me leave.
Maybe she wants some ammo for the Elders.
Bob
alright, so i'm reading on this site, and i'm not 100% sure what it's about.
it appears to be a bunch of former jw people bashing everything they can get their hands on in relation to jw's.. .
i was brought up as a jw, but when i got older and started to think for myself, i began to realize that i didn't agree with their teachings.
When I read the O/T of the Bible it's like todays News A whole lot of killing, corruption.The Head guy of the O/T Gov't was NOT a nice fellow.I do like what his Son had to say in the N/T.
Bob
man's rule.
nazi-germany-hilter...genocide..jews, kills homosexuals .... rwanda...genocide, darfur....genocide, zambawe,mugabe.takes land from white farmers.. god's rule..world..genocide...drowns 99.987% of people.
israelites.take the land of milk and honey from surrounding nations.. sodom/gomorrah...kills homosexuals.
Man's Rule. Nazi-Germany-Hilter...Genocide..Jews, kills homosexuals ...
Rwanda...Genocide, Darfur....Genocide, Zambawe,Mugabe.takes land from white farmers.
God's Rule..World..Genocide...Drowns 99.987% of people. Midianites.Genocide, Amalekites..Genocide
Israelites.take the land of milk and honey from surrounding Nations.
Sodom/Gomorrah...kills Homosexuals. These are but a few examples of God's Genocides.
Bob
or: "common responses to criticism, by active jehovah's witnesses", which i could also have called this topic.. .
-a video i just saw on youtube made by an active witness took me down memory lane a bit, and reminded me of how i used to think and respond to some common criticisms of the jws.
as i started writing this post, i had planned to put this person's thoughts point-by-point, but it turned out he was pretty much only covering one common critisism.
The R&F believe everything the GB say,because they are robots.When you program a computer it does what the programmers(GB) programmed into it.If the GB say shit smells good.The R&F would say isn't that a loving provision from the GB.
Bob
comments you will not hear at the 06-29-08 wt study (april 15, 2008, pages 21-25)(life worthwhile).
review comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
Thanks,Blondie.
Vanity Hebrew word translated, describes the WT perfectly. Solomon to bad he did not know how to enjoy life.For a wise man he was stupid and dumb.Sorry he was not wise.
Bob
if you're still unsure about the hotline to heaven (aka fds), then have a laugh at this truly pathetic story being circulated by the dubs - comments from stephen lett of the groaning body - see below.. to summarise lett's mind-control ramblings:.
angels are directing jws in the ministry - of course!if you don't answer the door - god will kill youif you don't listen to us - god will kill youbrainwashing of minor children is a real winnercalling on empty houses may seem like a waste of time - but to dubs it's the work of angelsfor the bethel drone monitoring this post - wake up and smell the coffee, before you're made to leave your cosy brooklyn office and hack the streets calling on empty houses.. you can be sure lett will be right behind you!.
ee.
Outlaw you are priceless.
Bob
at the wednesday night ministry school meeting, a letter from the society was read announcing that wtbts paperbacked publications will begin to be laminated.
according to the letter, this "will save approximately 2 million dollars per year," "lengthen the life of the publications," and "increase the attractiveness" of the publications.. so there's that.. .
also, will someone please explain to me why 85% of the congregation started smiling and nodding at this.. i sometimes think that headquarters could send the congregations boxes of turds and the jws would act like it was the best thing ever..
Why don't they outsourse the printing to India.They gave up farming because they could buy food cheaper then what their slave could produce.ALL about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Bob