Posts by bobld

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Are you scared to watch the news?

by wantstoleave in

i'm a newbie as far as delving into information other than wt based, and have only just started posting on this board...so maybe the following thought will be old hat to some of you, not a concern or perhaps something you occasionally think about.

but, are you scared to watch the news?

purely for the fact of seeing things go on in the world that would prompt you to think about your jw upbringing?

bobld

You are so right,when I read the WATCHTOWER or AWAKE it scares to BEE GEE'S out of me.To think that I got suckered into this mind control Org.that cost me a shit load of trouble,man oh man it makes you shake in your boots.The NEWS is childs play.What people fail to see about todays news is the many ways it is b'cast,T.V.,internet,ipod.youtube,etc 24/7.

Also when some trifle thing happens today,which happened 100's of time before the WT witnesses will say"did you hear on the news today such and such happened, boy we are in the end, the end is so close,bah.bah bah."They wish for the end but they are only wishful thinkers.Do not fall for thier propanganda.

Bob

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November 15 Watchtower (Study Edition) - discourages showing affection to your spouse

by CrazyBlonde in

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another gem from the same edition - article to be studied december 28 - january 3 (which most will miss lol coz of summer vacation) entitled "what do your prayers say about you?

" page 6 para 19 reads:.

19 when we are being represented in public prayer, we need to display reverential "fear of god.

bobld

"might offend visitors who do not share our beliefs' Really, what ever gave them that idea.It took them this long to figure it out. How about all the articles in the W/A that offend the Roman Catholic church.Why be concerned if once in a blue moon some beggar wonders into KH by mistake.

Bob

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-27-09 WT (BOLDNESS)

by blondie in

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http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.

http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.

http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.

bobld

Thanks,Blondie and I hope you get well soon.

Para 1 Good news: no suffering,no pain,no sorrow. Para 2 I came to put,not peace,but a sword.I came to cause division.So which is it,come on make up your mind.

Bob

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Oct. 15th WT - WT Society Manipulation " Find True Friends Only in JW land"

by flipper in

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well- you knew this was coming next after the article of how to be jesus friend.

so the wt society was setting it's members up to seek friends only in the ranks of jehovah's witnesses.

basically in this article " maintaining friendships in a loveless world " - even from the title you get the impression the wt is showing that the world is loveless- but the jehovah's witnesses are not.

bobld

Holy,Holy,Holy shit.Reminds me of Apartheid in South Africa,Segregation of Blacks and Whites in U.S.A. Did they forget Acts 10:34 "God in not partial" Is this in their only Jehovah's Witnesses Mag?

Bob

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Loyalty to the WTS Org Leaders

by bobld in

loyal--unwavering in devotion to the org.. ex.

it is only proper for a c.o.to follow the directives and orders of the org.. however,lately the c.o.

directives wrt employment,have been cut down hours.

bobld

Loyal--unwavering in devotion to the Org.

Ex. It is only proper for a C.O.to follow the directives and orders of the Org.

However,lately the C.O. directives wrt employment,have been cut down hours

of work,cut out OT,wivies should not work etc. All this would be OK,if not for the

resolution that he asked the Congreg to pass ie AACO(assist arrangement c.o.)

Which included expenses for Dentist,Optometrist,Pharmacist,etc this is above

and beyond for the expenses the Congreg pays for already.

How can anyone give those type of directives when a survey was done in a

National newspaper saying the following"Tough economic times could be a serious

health hazard for.........., 40% overwhelmed or stressed financailly,25% have cancelled

or delayed dental(not the C.O. his is paid for by congreg) appt to save money,14% delayed

or stopped buying prescription medication,(not the C.O. his is paid for by).

He also mentioned not the worry because the new system is just around the corner.

That might be so but who wants to live like a wild animal only concern for the days meal.

Bob

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When did Satan officially become "the god of this system of things?"

by truthseeker in

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a question i have often asked is when, precisely, did satan become the god of this system of things?.

the old testament does not mention satan as world ruler.

there are vague references in daniel where demonic princes are in charge of various parts of the world, even wrestling with the angel gabriel to prevent him from giving daniel a message.. i would have though that after the flood of noah's day, it was time for a fresh start, but god allowed satan to take up his former role.. a number of scriptures in the new testament suggest that satan was already god of this world.. .

bobld

"the god of this system of things" IS THE THINGS GOD CREATED.Like tobacco,drugs and of course beautiful WOMEN.

Man's reaction(hardon) when he see's a beautiful woman.Now we have porn internet,not sure what god had in mind here,but it is up there with one of those system of things.

Bob

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Hiroshima 64 years later

by bobld in

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we all know that hiroshima and nagasaki were destroyed in august 1945 after explosion of atomic bomds.however we know little about the progress made by the people of that land during the past 64 years.see the colorful city of hiroshima today.. the reason i mention this:when the economy turned south the past year,the leaders of the wbts were happier than flies on cow dung.it gave them a reason to spout off and tell people how foolish it was to put trust in this system and not god's(1914) kingdom which is just around the corner.. well the people of hiroshima and nagasaki did not put their trust in the wbts so called kingdom around the corner cow dung.it's 64 years later since the a bomb and that kingdom is still not here.what king of city would they have if they listened to the gb.they would still be living in the rubble.. bob .

bobld

We all know that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed in August 1945 after explosion of atomic bomds.However we know little about the progress made by the people of that land during the past 64 years.See the colorful City of Hiroshima today.

The reason I mention this:When the economy turned south the past year,the leaders of the WBTS were happier than flies on cow dung.It gave them a reason to spout off and tell people how foolish it was to put trust in this system and not God's(1914) kingdom which is just around the corner.

Well the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not put their trust in the WBTS so called Kingdom around the corner cow dung.It's 64 years later since the A bomb and that kingdom is still not here.What king of city would they have if they listened to the GB.They would still be living in the rubble.

Bob

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Ordained Ministers of J.W. part 1

by bobld in

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baptisms are usually performed at assemblies.at the conclusion of the baptism talk,the baptism candidates are asked two q.affirmative answers qualifies the candidates as ordained ministers of j.w..we all have seen some candidates as young as 13 years,some as young as 12 years and even some as young as 9 years old.now in the eyes of the wbts these are qualified ordained ministers.. to my way of thinking these ordained ministers should be qualified to give sound advise or council.example,a 17 year old teenage boy has a problem with masturbation and is seeking advise.do you think he would receive sound advise on his masturbation problem from a 9 year old ordained minister of j.w.

(girl).in other religions this ordained minister would be qualified but i don't think a j.w.

is.. bob.

bobld

I appreciate all your comments and will not reply to all.rebel8 asked"Do you have any info on when the ordination at baptism began?" No,but I hear it at every baptism talk.Also I see the GB trained you well to be an ordinary ordained minister.See BluesBrother comment.However I would add you are trained to recruit more sales people and sell more mags/books for the WBTS.

Satanus,re.'Supreme Court of the USA valid baptism of J.W." I may be wrong but I believe it had to do with Theological training in a seminary to be qualified as an ordained minister.Other religions felt since J.W. did not go to seminar school they didn't qualify as O.M.

I am not sure how it would play today with all the human rights,young children working as slaves in sweat factories in China/India etc.Can this be compared to 9 year old baptised J.W. as an O.M.

Also how can you discipline a 9 year old as an O.M. who is still growing,developing,maturing not really responsable for a whole lot,will pout when asked to clean her/his room.Will throw a tantum.

The WBTS/GB should come clean an be honest they are using this tactic getting young ones into their Org. without a way out.As can be seen here of the many who try to escape but at a very high price.The pain,sorrow,tears .................................sad.I am sorry for the rambling.They should make it clear what it means.Why rush to get little ones baptised.AH,the GB knows that once one is mature they see the scam.

Bob

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Ordained Ministers of J.W. part 1

by bobld in

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friends

baptisms are usually performed at assemblies.at the conclusion of the baptism talk,the baptism candidates are asked two q.affirmative answers qualifies the candidates as ordained ministers of j.w..we all have seen some candidates as young as 13 years,some as young as 12 years and even some as young as 9 years old.now in the eyes of the wbts these are qualified ordained ministers.. to my way of thinking these ordained ministers should be qualified to give sound advise or council.example,a 17 year old teenage boy has a problem with masturbation and is seeking advise.do you think he would receive sound advise on his masturbation problem from a 9 year old ordained minister of j.w.

(girl).in other religions this ordained minister would be qualified but i don't think a j.w.

is.. bob.

bobld

Baptisms are usually performed at assemblies.At the conclusion of the baptism talk,the baptism candidates are asked two Q.Affirmative answers qualifies the candidates as ORDAINED MINISTERS of J.W..We all have seen some candidates as young as 13 years,some as young as 12 years and even some as young as 9 years old.Now in the eyes of the WBTS these are qualified ordained ministers.

To my way of thinking these Ordained Ministers should be qualified to give sound advise or council.Example,a 17 year old teenage boy has a problem with masturbation and is seeking advise.Do you think he would receive sound advise on his masturbation problem from a 9 year old ordained minister of J.W.(girl).In other religions this ordained minister would be qualified but I don't think a J.W. is.

Bob

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Ranson

by bobld in

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illustration:my daughter is kidnapped.i pay the kidnappers the ransom price to bring about the release of my daughter.end of story,not so fast.you see the kidnappers injected a deadly drug which they can remotely activate and kill her any time they so desire.the ransom released her from the kidnappers but she is still under the control of the kidnappers.like wise the "so called ransom j.c. paid to release man" man is not.. if the ransom j.c. paid to release man from death,why is it that man still dies?oh,man is controlled by the so called drug injected by<><>(no free will).

bob.

bobld

Illustration:My daughter is kidnapped.I pay the kidnappers the ransom price to bring about the release of my daughter.End of story,not so fast.You see the kidnappers injected a deadly drug which they can remotely activate and kill her any time they so desire.The ransom released her from the kidnappers but she is still under the control of the kidnappers.Like wise the "so called ransom J.C. paid to release man" man is not.

If the ransom J.C. paid to release man from death,why is it that man still dies?Oh,man is controlled by the so called drug injected by<><>(no free will)

Bob