Posts by SB

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Skeptical of the Apostates Motivation

by The wanderer in

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skeptical of the apostates motivationmy best friend presented a hard-hitting question about former jehovahs.

witnesses.

he believes that many individuals leave the truth because it is hard; and they look for any miscue to escape the organization and their responsibility to god.

SB

i would use the example of a relationship gone bad. if i was in a long term relationship w/someone, and found out our whole relationship was built on lies and secrets, yes, it WOULD be hard to stay in that relationship. it would take a lot of work, sacraficing my own feelings of hurt, betrayal, and anger. on the other hand, it's not easy to leave either b/c of the anger of wasting all that time.

of course, an answer that i've always wanted to throw out there is, "prove to me that 607 BCE was the fall of jerusalem and i will reconsider my doubts".

SB

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My Kingdom Hall is near extinction!!

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

our kingdom hall was started in 1973 with only 3 families totaling 13 people.it grew to 85 members in the early 90's and that's because many were related to these 3 families.with older members dying,the young leaving when they reach 18, 5 divorces and many disfellowshipped,the congregation is down to 26 members.talk about low morale.

where is jehovah's blessing now?

SB

That one about sally struthers .LOL

ha ha ha ha ha, i just watched that southpark last night.

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WBTS Branches

by SB in

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i have been to 7 branches but never the ny bethel.

it's too bad i was disillusioned before i could make it there.

czech republic.

SB

I went to the KH in Prague 1, the english cong. and the chinese group (just for kicks) :). I remember the tile work in sweden, it was interesting ~ and the baby ducks in the pond! they ate my sandwich then went for my hand. :) I didn't get to know too many people in finland or sweden as it was a fast trip, but I went to an english assembly in norway, in 2002. (i had a part on stage, HA!). :)

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WBTS Branches

by SB in

jw
friends

i have been to 7 branches but never the ny bethel.

it's too bad i was disillusioned before i could make it there.

czech republic.

SB

Unfortunately, a LOT of my photo's are of WT stuff, KH stuff, and gatherings w/the "friends". I have the most interesting photo's of Prague, Czech Republic b/c that place is so amazing. I spend most of my time just walking around taking pictures.

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WBTS Branches

by SB in

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friends

i have been to 7 branches but never the ny bethel.

it's too bad i was disillusioned before i could make it there.

czech republic.

SB

I have been to 7 branches but never the NY Bethel. it's too bad I was disillusioned before I could make it there. :)

Czech Republic

Finland

London

Sweden

Alaska

Russia

Norway

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Do elders 'frighten' you?

by gypsytart in

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i put 'frighten' in quote marks because i'm not sure that's exactly the word i'm looking for.

i've been away from the borg for 10 years now, and it doesn't bother me these days when i'm called on by jws - most of whom i know as i'm living in the same area still.

i can quite happily stand up for myself to them - although i have to be a little careful what i say as i was a fader and never df'd.

SB

they make me sick how arrogant and judgemental they are. with no formal training, they think they can be councelors and judges. disgusting, but they are victims too. how many elders are here that feel ill when you think back to how you treated people? their actions which are dictated by mind control is what makes me sick. i think i would like most of them if they snapped out of it.

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Here we go - It's Lions again

by PopeOfEruke in

just checked the www.watchtower.org and there is an frontpage article which surely is a ncessary read for all those you eagerly following the slave class in an effort to gain everlasting life.. it's life-saving title is "pets - how do you view them?".

urgent information needed to survive the impending strike of armageddon!!.

and here is how the article starts:.

SB

the WT promises the unatainable. i've never wanted a lion now...but it just sounds so mysterious...a pet lion? this world won't give me one? but Jehovah will?! AWESOME! i'm in, where do i sign up? OH! i'm already signed up, i just have to start turning in time again. then will i get my lion back?....

i wonder what kind of kool-aid they'll serve when they finally realize the lie can't continue before it just gets too unbelievable/unteachable ~ then it will be time for the final transendence. :)

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Email from the ex ... "come back"

by merfi in

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check this out (hope you have a strong stomach .

from the ex:.

also, how are the kids handleing the holiday thing....for real....and do you really feel that is what you believe in, it just worries me......i havent said anything cuz its your choice, it is just that i wish you would come back.....move to omaha, and get into a diff congre, they would embrace you, they really would, .........heck, they embraced me after all the crap i did and fell and got back up.......i do see the good in you........ .

SB

i would tell him that if he wants to know how the kids are doing, then ask them. and OF COURSE his congregation "embraced" him. i don't know what he did, but i imagine if he did whatever he did, then made corrections to his life to get on "the right track", and became an amazing person BUT decided to leave the WT, then the said "embracing" would turn to "judging". i've learned it doesnt matter what kind of person you are, as long as you are an "active" witness. it sounds like you are a nice person, and a good mom. but JESUS CHRIST you've left the church....i'm worried about you...

SB

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A Jehovah's witness - Pioneer

by Fly in

it was a waste wasting 15 years of my life on this false religion.

i've cried when i find out that this religion is bull shit and are false prophets.

i'm a pioneer still and supposed to meet up in service with this brotha tomorr but i'm not going.

SB

hi fly,

i feel so much empathy for you, i'm sorry you had to find out, but so glad you did. there is something that has helped me, and i hope it helps you. Remind yourself that YOU ARE A VICTIM. for every type of victim, there is a recovery process. that process if full of pain, confusion, and emotions you have never experienced. try to seperate emotion from logic when making decisions. write things down, and talk about everything on your mind. this board is an AWESOME place to start. also, make a "wordly" friend. confide in them, tell them the watchtower things that have caused you to leave. their shock will comfort you, and reassure you that you are a NORMAL HEALTHY MINDED person to reject such lies. the witnesses are going to make you feel crazy. tell you that satan is overtaking you. even life long friends will start loosing love for you.

it's going to be hard, but if you don't do it, that would be even harder. to keep living the lie. you would be in a mental prison.

i look forward to hearing more from you. i'm sorry today is so hard.

love,SB

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Watchtower teaches how to fade

by JH in

when i stopped going to meetings, i faded away slowly.

we always tend to think that we are the ones who faded away and that the jw's in general wanted us to stay.. but if you think about it, the elders, ms, and every good jw who still attend meetings, are also the ones fading.

the only difference is that they are fading the people who left.

SB

i like the letters i've received (by like, i mean gag me). i've gotten three now, about how satan is going to swallow me whole, and that "with Jehovah's help, we can overcome anything". the only reason JW's think you "fade" is b/c life must be really stressful right now, satan has you in his snares! besides the death warning letters, i've received about six phone calls from the same two people, who happen to be very zelous crazy sisters, one phone call from an elders wife in my old cong. i told her that i was not going to the KH anymore, and we talked briefly about her, then i ended the conversation w/an excuse. her elder husband never called me. my life must not be that important, i guess. definately, no one was in a rush to "save me from the wolves".

on a side note, i "love" quotation marks.

SB