Posts by truthsearcher

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Posted a question about the cross/stake on Yahoo

by rassillon in

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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=aquuntl1rtw8yezsxghq7fdd7br.

should i have linked back to one of the good discussions here?

check out some of the answers i am getting.

truthsearcher

Of course the Romans had the ability to create a cross, and probably did. But ask yourself: why they would have bothered when a simple stake would have worked just as well or better?

This answer obviously misses the whole point of crucifixion--a long slow torturous death, in which the outstretched arm postion allowed for the greatest amount of time (days, since the sufferer could still breath). The overhead arms postition has been shown in studies and by eyewitnesses in German concentration camps to have caused death in a matter of minutes.

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Outa here

by snarf in

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it seems you have to be of the "popular crowd" on this forum to express feelings and views.

as i am not of this crowd, i have recently recieved alot of not so friendly comments and p.m.s from people who seem to think they need to put me in my place.

it is funny how some people can express their views and opinions and everyone still loves them.

truthsearcher

So, stick around. You couldn't possibly be more ignored than me. But, I haven't spent the time and effort that so many have done here to become persons of note. There as some REAL scholars here, and I just like to be here to read what they write.

Well, actually, I am an invisible presence here too, never say much of note, mostly taking in information and following the lives of those who are journeying out of the organization. You all sound like you are having alot more fun than me. Maybe I should purposely say something to generate some negative pms? No, I'd rather not, it is not my style. Maybe I should be extremely witty? Sorry, doesn't seem to be in me either. Oh well...

Glad you decided to stay snarf!

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New Here, just want to introduce myself....

by lies all lies in

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hi everyone, i never was baptized but studied for a very long time before i finally got my sanity back and realized that although the individual jws for the most part were good people and doing what they thought was right the org itself was total b.s.

anyway ive been lurking here off and on for a while and figured i would stop being lazy and register.

so hello, i enjoy everyones posts and hope to be around for a while!

truthsearcher

Hi Lynne; Welcome and be glad for your escape. What was it that tipped you off--the twisting of scripture or something else? I know that I get a kind of icky feeling from reading the literature. Did you feel icky too? Look forward to hearing more from you.

TS

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Door to door non-denomination christians

by Bob Loblaw in

so a young man and a young woman approached my new investment property yesterday and opened with the line,..."hi, we are just talking to people in the neigborhood about jesus.

they were dressed in street clothes so i was kind of taken aback.

they are missionaries and there are group of about 15 of them that are attending to my neigborhood and surrounding neigborhoods.

truthsearcher

The WT is certainly wrong if they think that they are the only ones involved in a "preaching work". There are many Christians who go out on "visitation" as they often call it, just visiting their neighbours and engaging in relationship evangelism. People first, then preaching. You have to earn the right to share your faith with them. I have done it myself and my kids have done it too. The idea is that the relationship endures even if the evangelism doesn't because you truly do care about the needs of the person. I don't see this happening in the WT at all--once you are not interested in the message, on they will move to their next victim.

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what happened to sirnose and thebiggestlie?

by Chameleon in

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last i read is that he (sirnose) dad.. i don't know about tbl..

truthsearcher

I sent a pm to Sirnose the other day but haven't heard back from him...I hope he is okay. The last I heard, he had been busted in the middle of the night by his folks for ordering the CofC, and had agreed to stay away from apostates for a while. Did things escalate beyond that situation? Can someone point me to a thread about that?

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Another Elder Suicide?

by still_in74 in

well it looks like a southern ontario elder just took his own life.

i cant go into details as we live in a very small world in "the truth" and even the smallest amount of detail on this one could quickly connect this to me, so for now its on the d-low.. it is a relative of a very close friend and he is godsmacked by it.

he said to me, " we sure seem to be seeing more of this lately arent we?

truthsearcher

This is very sad to hear, and I feel for the family. I don't know how much comfort they will receive from the Witnesses, but I hope that you will get a chance to reach out to them.

I have wondered if the belief that there is nothing after death but a possible resurrection by Jehovah makes suicide a more palatable option for Witnesses? I sense that this religion of works and high pressure leads to depression and dispondancy. They do not have the true hope and comfort that comes from a relationship with Jesus and "knowing" that they have everlasting life, as 1 John says.

I hope that the family will be able to find strength from Scripture and the loving support of their friends.

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This is what I am going to do.

by GODLOVESME in

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this sunday at 11.00am i am going to take a jw to a church service at st marks luthern church in yonkers ny.she is 28 years old.

she was born and raised a jw.

she has never been in a church in here life and is so brainwashed that she thinks saton lives inside.

truthsearcher

Perhaps your friend would be more comfortable in a "low church" setting--something with less liturgy, pomp and ceremony, such as something in the Baptist or Brethren line? They usually do not have overly decorated sanctuaries (ours has no cross on display, and looks similar to a KH but with lots of sunny windows!) Also there is lots of focus on Bible teaching in those type of churches, which would probably appeal to your friend.

I wish her the best, and that she will feel the love of Jesus reaching out to her during the service!

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Update: So I've been going to some meetings (and other things)

by WingCommander in

i've been absent from this board from some time, as i've been through alot the past few months.

firstly, my mother passed away after complications from her surgery.

so i've lost my entire family since 1999. i'm an only child.

truthsearcher

Dear Wing:

I'm really sorry to hear about the pain that you are suffering right now,and I am glad to hear that you have taken comfort from prayer and trusting God. I have always found that to be very calming and encouraging when I have been feeling alone or down-hearted.

So many have offered comments about the WT's ability to provide you with a place of true worship. I have to join them in questioning this too. Someone commented:

But it's just that I know what this org. truly is, and I don't believe that a false prophet and a false religion has anything good to offer you in a path to spirituality/God.

This really states it so clearly! The heart of the matter is that the JWs are a false religion...and if you read your Bible, you will see clearly what God thinks about those types of teachers.

Another comment was:

I believe that you can have a relationship with God if you want without ever going to a meeting of a religion responsible for needless deaths, ruined families, and child abuse cover ups.

This may sound harsh, but it is true. Again, read your Bible in context and see God's plan for us to have a direct relationship with Him through Jesus. We are to be followers of Jesus, witness of Jesus, and these are things that you can't be as a JW.

One JW told me: "This is not a religion, it is a lifestyle." I truly think that in time you will realize that you can't be part of this lifestyle anymore. I want to encourage you to continue praying and reading the Scriptures. God loves you and wants to be His child. If you are willing to come to Him in faith, He will help you to get out of the cult and find a place where you can worship Him in "truth", not lies, and be loved, comforted and supported through life's journey as you raise your children.

I wish you much peace in your heart and comfort during this time of grief.

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13-yr old girl writes: example of Witnesses lying

by Dogpatch in

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i get emails like this all the time.

some jw gets upset at the stuff on my site, and wanting to add more weight/shock value to what they say, they either mention in passing that they are "not one of jehovah's witnesses" or are a child.

this one claims to be a 13-yr old girl!

truthsearcher

I have raised 3 13 year old females (several years apart, not triplets), and let me assure you that they would never call themselves "GIRLS", nor would they go around telling their age--they also wanted to be seen as being more mature than they really were!

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What a nice surprise

by mouthy in

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bumble bee just dropped in.

such a sweetie... i was feeling "low" & low & behold!!!!!

an "adopted" grand child comes to cheer me up.

truthsearcher

Mouthy: I'm sorry to hear that you have been feeling blue. I hope you know you can just give me a call or send me an email, and I'll send up a prayer for you!