Hmmm, this doesn't sound right, with all respect. Maybe a copy of the letter can be obtained?
AllTimeJeff
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GREAT Visit from the Elders and new stuff
by SouthCentral inthe elders stopped by today.
they spoke of a new arrangement where the org is asking everyone to come back regardless of their sins.
they just want them to come back with impunity.
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I turn on the news to see Sarah Palin taking on the Family Guy writer
by dinah ini think she should just try to bring it.
she's out-gunned.. .
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AllTimeJeff
I heard it put best about explaining jokes and humor. It's sort of like dissecting a frog. When you do it, the frog dies in the process.
Funny is funny, it doesn't need an explanation. Stupid is stupid, and it always requires an explanation, which is why Palin's mouth is always open.
In case anyone missed this, Palin needs publicity. Anyone who takes on a cartoon puts themselves on the cartoon's level. You just can't win.
Of course, we have already discussed how Palin is proabably a genius of Titanic proportions.
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I turn on the news to see Sarah Palin taking on the Family Guy writer
by dinah ini think she should just try to bring it.
she's out-gunned.. .
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AllTimeJeff
CRR, did you get the Family Guy episode? I can explain it to you.
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GREAT Visit from the Elders and new stuff
by SouthCentral inthe elders stopped by today.
they spoke of a new arrangement where the org is asking everyone to come back regardless of their sins.
they just want them to come back with impunity.
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AllTimeJeff
Thanks for sharing. Just by the way you phrased your statement, there is nothing new about elders asking anyone, regardless of their sins to come back. With impunity? That is interesting. I will be paying attention to this for the future.
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FINALLY... THE ARK HAS BEEN FOUND!!! PRAISE JEHOBA!!!!
by whereami inif you want to see what blind faith and zero brain activity does to you, read the comments.. .
http://www.pbase.com/paulthedane/image/78106281.
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AllTimeJeff
If they really found the Ark, I hope they take it to Brooklyn and open it up during a GB meeting so they all melt.
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Jehovah's "name" real or not?
by highdose inis the name jehovah as gods name without dispute?
has the wtbs ever addmitted any where that gods name is not actauly known?.
need references for a project of mine please!.
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AllTimeJeff
Look up Jehovah in the Reasoning book. They admit it there somewhere, before they steamroll that fact with a bunch of BS.
The GB is stuck with "Jehovah" as much as they are with Russell. To deal with it, they make it a translation issue, and say that in English, its Jehovah.
....although
JEHOVAH IS A MISTRANSLATION (as Outlaw alluded to)
Here's the rub, something to think about. Get your big reference NWT, and look up Jehovah in the index. There is an entire article dedicated to a theological lie. Read it, understand it, and you will know all you need to know about how dishonest the GB is.
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AllTimeJeff
I can't adopt anyone, but I would be happy to be in the JWN Big Brother program. (not the 1984 version) I mentor 2 hours at a time, after which, I drop you back off at home.
I promise as I mentor not to debate politics or religion...
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God and Suffering
by AK - Jeff ina few weeks back, in the midst of the haiti tragedy, much discussion took place in cyberland about the tolerance [or indeed the insistence on] suffering by a loving god.
the furor over haiti has settled a bit [as unfortunately most tragedy is wont to do far too quickly in the human mind], but this persistent matter continues to chew at my subconscience.
today i came across this:.
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AllTimeJeff
Just to weigh in on PSac approach.
I obviously don't agree with PSac's beliefs per se. On the other hand, I can easily respect it, as others here have brought out. And it is a lot closer to what I would believe were I a Christian. PSac at least acknowledges the problems of suffering, he has his own conclusion on it, and most refreshingly for me, this conclusion is for himself. It's personal. To me, thats how it should be. In addition, PSac doesn't begrudge anyone their own beliefs. To me, it would be grand if Christianity evolved to PSac's views instead of stay stagnant.
When I debate theism in the abstract, I personally believe that we all need to be careful in what we are deconstructing, as well as why. Superpunk, I really enjoy your posts always, just very logical and respectful. I agree with most of your premises.
To me, there is a BIG difference between debating group faith and personal faith. To that, Perry and PSac both speak from their personal faith. The difference to me is that PSac is respectful and non dogmatic. Perry's views are not. PSac allows for my own path, and everyone else here. Perry believes in a god that will destroy us all eventually, since we are born sinners and thus merit the suffering that we are experiencing right now, unless of course, we accept Jesus.
I won't debate much with a sincere theist who has their own personal faith and that means a lot to them. Why would I want to take that away from someone?
PSac, as long as you don't shove your god down my throat, you and I are good bro. Thanks for not condemning me as part of your belief system.
Having said that, AKJeff's and SuperPunk have made great points that I don't think are easily answered by anyone's version of theism. It's tough, wish God would do something about it, you know?
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Does Anyone Miss Being In The Jehovah's Witness Cult?
by minimus ini saw 6 jw zombies walking up a hill near where i live the other day.
they all were dressed nicely.
they walked together in twos.
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AllTimeJeff
It was a good question Minimus.
I DO miss the good memories I had. My experiences weren't typical, and for a while, being a JW fed a very immature, insulated worldview that I inherited.
Of course, its just like the Matrix, once you realize what its all about, you can't go back, no matter how much you want to.
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Camera users beware
by IMHO inmost people use a camera these days (if only on a mobile phone) but be wary of using an slr camera at a convention.. i heard of somone who was stopped by 'security' and questioned as to why they were using an slr and implied that you may be taken for a peadophile if you do..
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AllTimeJeff
SLR's = pedophilia?