Posts by AllTimeJeff

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"...cannot be condoned under ANY circumstance"

by parakeet in

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this is going around the internet.

enjoy.. "on her radio show, dr. laura schlensinger (a popular conservatve radio talk-show host) said that homosexuality is an abomination according to the bible leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.

the following is an open letter to dr. laura, penned by james m. kauffman, ed.d.. dear dr. laura:.

AllTimeJeff

What if heterosexuality was somehow condemned by a religious group, and hate crimes were a result? How long before a backlash?

Hate speech is hate speech. When you call sexual preferences "abominations" and religious hatred is attached to it, it is more then free speech. It incites crimes against minorities.....

This is akin to defending the use of the word n*gger as free speech when it is in fact a slur toward African Americans that clearly has resulted in the harm and death of thousands of African Americans over the last 150 years.

Dr Laura is a hateful homophobe. I applaud the open letter, it more then proves the point.

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My world has come to an end.

by is there help out there in

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my name is o`mar p. clark.

i was born and raised a jw.

AllTimeJeff

Um, yeah. Important. I remember this, sort of like watching Dennis Kucinich talk about extra terrestrial life....

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privilleges equals spirituality

by stillin in

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what a sad joke!

posters here talk about the "do more" pushiness in the organization and that is so true!

elders just assume that you want to carry microphones and work your way up the spiritual ladder to that blissful state of total immersion in "kingdom matters.

AllTimeJeff

Lest we forget the function that accompanies these "privileges"

All it is is work to be done. How do you trick people to clean toilets for free? To mow the lawn? Tell them its a privilege, and attach the core cult work as the key determining factor.

Yup, to qualify to clean toilets or mow the lawn, you have to be "regular" in FS each month.

Clever....

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At a 2 day assembly ...the point that the brother spoke about that drove me mad....."don't hug your husband, wife or child during prayer".

by crazy2try in

i attended one day of a two day assembly and did ok until the very last talk.

the brother was from bethal and well jw's pay closer attention to their talks, cause that is when some new info is given,,,right.

well anyways i lost focus and began to daydream, cause it became one of those talks that just talks about wasting time.

AllTimeJeff

Don't worry, in a year, another WT will come out saying that the flock misconstrued the article, and it will all be the flocks fault. At that time, married folk will be able to fondel their partner, because the next rule will be "KEEP YOUR EYES CLOSED DAMMIT AND YOU WON'T SEE ANYTHING!!!"

(I understand that this point has been made previously....)

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Crimes Committed by Jehovah's Witnesses...... and Catholics, and Baptists and......

by AllTimeJeff in

please allow me a small opinion, sparked by some drum bangers who are determined to expose and "bring down" the wtbts.

one way that this is done is by attaching a persons religion to a crime report.. for example, rapists who are jw's are frequently brought up here.

child molesters and pedophiles.

AllTimeJeff

I bow to you on your point Outlaw. Again, my point is sensationalizing these stories does happen, and it appears that there is an ax to grind.

As usual, I could have said that better.... lol. Outlaw, btw, I am way ahead of you, although this weekend, I am on a Sam Adams quest. The seasonal right (write, rite) now is Noble Pils. I haven't had a Canadian beer in a couple of weeks, I feel bad...

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"ABSTAIN from...fornication, and blood."

by wary in

if fractions of blood are now allowed,.

by the same reasoning what fractions of fornication can i have?.

AllTimeJeff

LMFAO!!!!

That's priceless. Lets give one to Tiger Woods...

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EXPOSING JW'S AT THE 7-11 THIS MORNING

by judge rutherFRAUD in

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i'm getting coffee at the 7-11 about 8:30 this morning , in the parking lot i see this guy i know and his wife talking to some jw's in the parking lot.

i go over and say hi joe and wife, i play stupid and ask do you go to church with these people.

they say no they are preaching jesus to us.

AllTimeJeff

Hey judge, I disagreed with an earlier post of yours, but this was pretty good! Thats the kind of thing that needs to happen, one JW at a time. Who knows, maybe those JW's will "think" too. It hurts when the gears are forcibly moved.

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Crimes Committed by Jehovah's Witnesses...... and Catholics, and Baptists and......

by AllTimeJeff in

please allow me a small opinion, sparked by some drum bangers who are determined to expose and "bring down" the wtbts.

one way that this is done is by attaching a persons religion to a crime report.. for example, rapists who are jw's are frequently brought up here.

child molesters and pedophiles.

AllTimeJeff

Watson, you spelled "write" correctly. Well done!

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question about judicial committee meetings

by peaches in

a couple of young people about 20years old,,,,were involved with each....they went too far with the being alone situation....not sure if they reported themselves or some one else did...reguardless.....i guess the elders asked both of them extremely embarrassing questions and very very personal ones...like what kind of underwear she wore,,,,,did she have an orgasm.....etc etc..... i do not understand why this is done?????

they went too far,,,acknowledged it,,,,met with the elders...why the deep personal questions??

they already had all the information they needed...... i should know these things,,,being in the borg for 30 years...but i don't,,,i really do not understand why????

AllTimeJeff

Blues brother is right. Yet, I encountered so many elders who did this very thing. According to procedure, elders only need to establish porneia. Whether a person orgasmed or not has never been a criteria, although elders continue to justify the importance of that question. My take? They are pervs.....

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It's Not A Hollywood Movie, It's Your Story

by AllTimeJeff in

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a philosophical ending.. in the end, real life doesn't have happy endings for the happy.

it's even better, because its real.

you are real.

AllTimeJeff

Interesting how this thread has evolved, but I think the discussion of our movies/stories not being over has an over-arching lesson.

Not everyone will get the 7 Habits concepts. We are all different. What it provides to me and others is a framework from which to rebuild and refocus after leaving JW's.

I see and speak often of the void thats left, esp for those who were kicked out only to learn of the lies that JW's teach. That is the biggest thing that breaks my heart. I don't think it matters ultimately if you did it Covey's way, or Dale Carnagies way, whatever.

One of the things that stuck with me that Covey wrote about is having a purpose for our lives. After we leave JW's that is so important to NOT ignore. I realize that some will always try to do what they were never allowed to do, whether that be drugs, sex, alcohol, etc. It isn't my place to judge, except to say that "sowing your oates" can lead to some unalterable consequences, but, maybe thats the road your story will take you.

To fill that void, to be "spiritual" even if that means not being religious or having a religion, is important.

The need to take care of yourself, something both JW's and former JW's neglect at times, is encapsulated in Habit 7.

Again, I can endorse this book as a healthy way to get started if you are leaving. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if someone wants to really get into it or not, I think its good to know that there are many healthy mental and emotional constructs to implement, if we only avail ourselves of them.

Reading. Gotta love it!