Posts by AllTimeJeff

i know that some of you don't personally think that the gb wants to cause harm or is only after the money, but after reading some posts on here, it seems like some of you do think that the gb is evil.. .

if you think about it, that doesn't make sense, but here is just one question.

why would the gb create a time limit on their organization if they believed it to be false?

AllTimeJeff

Heathen, to be honest, evil lurks everywhere if you want to go there. Sure, the GB can be and has been "evil". That description also plays right into their hands with da flock.

I will simply refer to them as "profoundly misinformed as to their standing with god".

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Godwin's Law of JWN---Need help naming it!

by NewChapter in

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first, a definition of godwin's law:.

godwin's law (also known as godwin's rule of nazi analogies or godwin's law of nazi analogies[1][2]) is a humorous observation made by mike godwin in 1990[2] that has become an internet adage.

it states: "as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving nazis or hitler approaches 1.

AllTimeJeff

I vote "It's simply human nature." ;)

Not as sexy, but if we need a name, "Coftys" or "New Chapters" will do.

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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.

by stuckinamovement in

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i have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.

in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.

even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.

AllTimeJeff

Me ex is still a JW. She stayed because as she said at our Gilead intro, 'my family is the brotherhood now.' which turned out to be the case, as she wanted the 'brotherhood' over a marriage.

I have been lonely since, but I had no desire to pretend to believe in something just to keep my friends. The ex was different.

I agree with Blondie and Mary. (as usual)

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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.

by stuckinamovement in

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i have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.

in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.

even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.

AllTimeJeff

Now that I think about it, elders, bethelites, missionaries are in the best position to see the rot. It's the 10 hour and under flock that don't ever get to see the rot firsthand.

Thats what did it for me. Elder at 26, Gilead/missionary at 30. Former JW at 31.

The issue that I don't think the gb will ever be able to solve is, they can't micro manage elders. They can only hope to brainwash them. If that fails, any man these days is going to do research (as I did) and then have to make a decision, cynically stay and sell your soul, fade, or leave.

I blew up the bridge and left.

Until you see the rot, you simply in most cases can't believe it's their. Trust me, it's as rotten as can be.

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The Obsession Of Apostates

by Bangalore in

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the obsession of apostates.. a jw apologist's view.. http://dismythed.blogspot.com/2009/01/obsession-of-apostates.html.

bangalore.

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AllTimeJeff

This will backfire on him.

First off, of course he is wrong. All he is doing is parroting what he has been taught from the Watchtower. Whatever.....

The bad news for him is, someone will read that, and then read something a former JW wil write. That seed will be planted, and if it is in the soil of an honest, open mind, the truth about da troof will be plain to this person. Then he will have a decision to make.

It should be noted too, people like this yahoo have been withJWs for over 100 years. I don't care to prove him wrong. To most reasonable people, he is a blabbering idiot with way too much time on his hands. I will stand with the majority of people who will read this and shrug. Like JWs, this guy will persuade a few gullible people not in possession of themselves, but that's about it. After all, jWs can really only target the gullible and ignorant these days, right? Like JWs, I can't help them, and dont have the time for them.