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  Rumor : Elders' meeting about pedophilia issues

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi everyone, there is a rumor on a french speaking forum saying that the elders were to assist to a 9 h meeting,yesterday or today depending on availability, about pedophilia exclusively.

  meeting directed by an circuit overseer.

  more infos to come.

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  Gayle

  Please keep us posted on more info as it comes out. Thank you.
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  Depressing Census Statistics on Religion

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... depressing if you are the governing body that is.. the australian census figures from 2011 are available.

  this is taken every 5 years, and i have been doing a comparison over the last 15 year period.

  for 2001 and 2006 the number of jw's fell in australia, but this time it has risen, which jws may find encouraging.

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  Gayle

  Thank you always for your site Paul, and your charts.

  Interesting about the JW Census. The difference from that and actual pubs. is 21,140 (that would include nonpubs, JW children. Certainly, under 5 would be included in that. U.S. stats show their under 5 at 5.6% on one site. Couldn't find percentage for Australia. But, that percentage less, brings the remaining possible group (DF'd, inactive or ?) to 16,344. These are still mentally stuck in JWism, still 'claiming' JW. These could no doubt 'jump' back in, especially if there is a bad earthquake or tsunami, or some scarey time in their life.

  This difference between Census and reporting pubs is almost 33%. Yikes!
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  is this the new jw take over the sale of brooklyn properties?

  by recovering in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  found this on a pro jw website .

  is this what they are telling the witnesseskelly wallaceyou realise bethel in brooklyn new york are selling up the buildings and moving.

  you know why- they realised come the great tribulation they are too exposed.

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  Gayle

  Their continued paranoia about the great trib. As if their supposed attackers wouldn't find their location & address since it is all over the internet already,,???!!!,,nobody's after them,,they are chasing their tail..so funny..ridiculous
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  More connect-the-dots madness...

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that's right, a knife and a baby in close proximity.... .

  http://www.jw.org/assets/m/ijw13fr/502013178/ijw13fr_id-502013178_e/502013178_e_cnt_1.pdf.

  anything goes, so long as you're proving how "wise" king solomon was.. .

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  Gayle

  This is extremely inappropriate for preschoolers..

  Here the WTS won't even let their JW children draw a Christmas tree or a Santa.

  The WTS is evil with extreme insensitivities for innocent children.

  I am disgusted.
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  Shun Run 2013

  by rawe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am the organizer of the chandler, az ex-jw meetup group.

  last year our group organized a "shun run".

  nine of us walked and ran to bring attention to the issue of shunning.

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  Gayle

  Randy,,please, forward this on to the Phoenix West side group.
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  Shun Run 2013

  by rawe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am the organizer of the chandler, az ex-jw meetup group.

  last year our group organized a "shun run".

  nine of us walked and ran to bring attention to the issue of shunning.

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  Gayle

  Wow, Randy, I plan to be in on this! Hope we have an good Arizona follow-through on this. I have a houseful of visitors that weekend but intend to make at least some of this. Thanks for organizing this!!

  You have done such a full break-through here in Arizona for your whole family - quite successfully!
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  BF vented on "apostate" websites

  by FingersCrossed in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hmmm.... how many of you, in the process of waking up, got really angry with websites like jwfacts.com etc.. etc... even calling them slanders etc?

  i think all of you are doing a great job, keep it on guys!.

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  Gayle

  it takes a while to call WT a CULT

  took awhile for me to use that "c" word also.
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  Resigned being an elder

  by subytrek in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am new here and this is my first post although i have lurked here for a couple years.

  i started having doubts about the org back then and my curiosity overcame my fear of so-called apostate websites so here i am.

  i just resigned being an elder 2 weeks ago.

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  Gayle

  Thrilled for you!! Seems you are doing things the best way for you both..

  About the "social need" for your wife. I see that often on this site. What else does she like to do? Dance, a sport, a hobby, classes of something? Any such groups for you both to do and meet others? Anyway, keeping a respectful, loving relationship matters most. Maybe you could ask her about things raising your child in the future: education, sports, positive simple endeavors for your child?

  The thought like your dad's profound comment: He remembers being told that his children wouldn't even have to go to school but now I have a family of my own and he has granchildren. What does she think about that?

  So many best wishes to you and your family as you all learn freedom of your minds and hearts together!
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  What group within the Witnesses has the highest drop out rate?

  by Ultimate Axiom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you could categorise jehovahs witnesses into their various groups, i.e.

  publisher, auxiliary pioneer, regular pioneer, special pioneer, missionary, co, do, bethel worker, born-ins, etc etc, (and you can subdivide into as many groups as you wish) what group do you think has the highest drop out rate?

  i remember an ex ny bethellite saying that bethel cured him of the watchtower, and after reading the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/160509/1/warren-schroeder-from-bethel-on-freddy-kline-and-the-apostate-books my guess is that it would be ny bethellites, but i am interested to know if there is a consensus on this, or on any other group, or no group at all..

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  Gayle

  Bethelites would be high also. Initially, most called are 19 yrs old males, and raised in. Now moving away from home, often controlling JW parents, they have to grow up and many now get a chance to think on their own, without Mom & Dad influence. Also, they get the insider experience of the "control" and leadership demands and contradictions and 'no love' reality.

  Back in '71 or so, at Bethel, word was that most were not completing their 4-yr vow anyway and not just leaving Bethel but the whole works (Organization.) Not sure when, but Bethel dropped their 4-year sign-up down to one year requirement.

  Auxillary Pioneers, signup has been dropping dramatically also in recent years, thus the 'bar" dropped to 30 hr. requirement.
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  Looking For 2012 cdrom Thread and Quote Re: WTS 'Carefully Researches Info'

  by Justitia Themis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought i marked these two threads for future reference, but apparently i did not.. #1) 2012 cdrom:.

  i am looking for the cdrom thread.

  also, is anyone willing to get me a hard copy of the cdrom?

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  Gayle

  I know it was said by GB Jackson about "70 checkpoints" about anything written by them. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/242261/1/Must-See-Annual-Report-Summary-Directly-From-JW-ORG

  but I don't know where the original clip was