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  Fun at The WT This Morning

  by OneFingerSalute in

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  2. beliefs

  so ofs was at the wt this morning, and on par.

  14 the question was, "what trust can a faithful christian whose relative is disfellowshipped have?".

  after awhile when no one else raised their hands ofs did, and was called on.. ofs commented, "one of jw can have the trust that god will lovingly give them the ability to uphold the disfellowshipping arrangement by totally shunning family members.".

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  Gayle

  To many JWs the "shunning" word doesn't sound right, doesn't feel right in their natural sensitivity, creates a mental fog. However, the WT or GB knows to keep 'repeating,' and the organizational program will kick in till somehow it will then wackily make sense.
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  2015 Regional Conventions Baptisms

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since this is the first weekend of rcs, anyone going that can give estimates of how many are getting baptized, how many appeared about that were jw youth, and what attendance figure is at these rcs?.

  i know u.s. baptisms are declining.

  can any keep a running report?

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  Gayle

  http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2015/06/jehovahs_witnesses_hold_spanis.html

  36 baptized there. Always higher at Spanish conventions.

  According to the Pew Research Center, the percentage of Witnesses who identify as Latino rose from 24 percent in 2007 to 32 percent in 2014.
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  What Would Happen if the Watchtower Loses Their TAX EXEMPT STATUS?

  by John Aquila in

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  2. beliefs

  would it really affect them?

  how would it affect volunteers at any construction project since that work would now be taxable.

  any materials they buy would be taxable.

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  Gayle

  I can't see the government taking away tax exempt status to all religions - in my lifetime.

  What I wish is that the U.S. government would required full account records available to the public. How much is really going for food, health (clinics), schooling (to public verifying education that all must meet state requirements). How much is going for multiple buildings, used for what. How much is really going for disaster reliefs. ETc., etc. All with comparison charts alongside all registered religions.

  Then, let the people decide then, how much they want to donate, amount average per household.
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  Contrary to News Reports the ZEAL is Still There

  by steve2 in

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  2. humour

  zeal has always been a valued word in the jw arsenal.

  even if you don't see it in your own local congregation, you keep hearing about it.

  "zeal this" and "zeal that".

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  Gayle

  Converts sometimes get that "new zeal." A bubble world. They don't have the full reality yet. I don't think the kids raised in it ever get that. ok, very, very rarely.
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  Jehovah's Witness woman refuses blood, then dies.

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  another jehovah's witness woman has died while giving birth due to massive blood loss and refusing a blood transfusion.

  she leaves nine children behind.

  she finally consented to the transfusion but it was too late to save her.

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  Gayle

  For sure, the organization will not be there for those 9 kids to grow up in this world. Nor will they be there for the grandmother.
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  Changes for Volunteers at Conventions and Assemblies in Spain

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  someone sent me this from jwtalk.

  a guy on there just posted this regarding changes to the way the jws volunteer at conventions in spain and the changes seem fairly major:.

  we had a special meeting today called a training session for volunteers.

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  Gayle

  So, maybe should be a different thread. I know these conventions are JW tradition. Probably, for two reasons, money maker, a time for releases of new light in bound book form, and a good hype for JWs to see in large groups. Teenagers and others could meet and work together in cafeterias and refreshment stands or 'clean' together. Most also did some door to door work in the mornings years ago at the conventions.

  However, now, 'new light' can be internet downloaded, everyone can watch talks and cartoons/videos on their screens anyway, even the talks by their GB gods. Their packed lunches are uneventful.

  Arenas are costly, when the WT has a new primary mission of building 'windowed' KHs.

  Is it possible, for the WT to change this tradition only inviting a selected group to a big convention, video tape it back to the KHs for the peons to watch on TV. Guess not quite as dramatic, however, this is what big political rallys do and final sports games do and have no problem to carry on their fervor.

  After all, all other religions have no problem carrying on their religion for decades without the cost of three convention sites to travel.

  They could develop a once a yearly baptism program for qualified dunkies and their family. Having a big convention or assembly for a handful of baptisms, mostly of JW youth, is no longer dramatic for an expensive convention site.

  Seems it could change some day. Obviosly, the WT has been downsizing how many days donventions are, Could downsize to one a year, for anuual baptism, etc.
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  Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.

  i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.

  well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.

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  I find that encouraging, primarily, because I would guess a good percentage (50%?) will leave the organization in time.
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  these books, want any? if not they go in the trash

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  worldwide security under the prince of peacegods eternal purpose now triumphinglife does have a purpose babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rulesyou can live forever on a paradise earththe secret to family happinessdid man get here by evolution of creationlet your kingdom comechoosing the best way of lifecommentary on the letter of jamesi have one of each.. the bible gods word or mansis the bible really the word of godsurvival into a new earthknowledge that leads to everlasting lifereasoningunited in worshipholy spirit the force behind the coming new orderthe two babylon'sparadise lost originalyou can live forever on a paradise earth first large print edition 1982 revelation book 1988 large print.

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  I have 3 Studies of the Scriptures (II, III, and VI) to give away,,don't want to throw away.
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  Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.

  i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.

  well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.

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  MrTheocratic, what was the baptism number there and what percentage as a guess were JW youth?
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  Why do members of this board debate what the W.T. /G.B. meant in their publications when its all going to be changed shortly.

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its just a thought i had,why do we debate over what the wt publications say today when we know all to well that in a year or two they will say something different.. and put it down to new light .. everything charles taze russell said by word of mouth and in print , the so called , first president of the international bible students association (william h. conley was actually the first president ), later to be named the watchtower bible and tract society in his lifetime is discarded .. something like 40 years preaching and teaching throughout the earth , being the chief cornerstone of the foundation of the jehovah`s witness religion / i.b.s.a... nothing he said or preached or wrote about is accepted today by the jehovah`s witness religion as being relevant.. do they say he was wrong ?

  no... do they say he was a false prophet ?

  no ,... then what do they say about c.t.russell , well they do cherry pick some comments and take them out of context ,like he foretold 40 years beforehand about world war one.

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  Gayle

  The Watchtower .scrambles. many brains and consciences. It needs exposure. Their past lies and continuing lies need exposure and this sometimes needs references. Many in their process of the unraveling appreciate those who know the double talk and half truths to help them identify these issues. Also, hearing other individuals with this process is helpful. For some of us, it took years, especially when there is the emotional attachment with family still there under WT control.

  With the internet and so many sites, many can process this more quickly and others not JWs, can hear the whole story before any WT lies sink in.