Posts by Eliveleth

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R.F. Update: I guess it's working....

by R.F. in

.....dropping of the face of the jw world is what i'm talking about.

hello all, thought i'd fill anyone interested in on what's been going on with me............. well life has been great.

my relationship with my parents is great even though it's been a year since i've severed all jw activities.

Eliveleth

May 4, 2007: I'm 22 years old and a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation. I'm not really here to knock the organization, but I must admit that there are some things(ex. doctrinal points, congregational problems) that have concerned me as of late that I just can't bring myself to overlook. I'm defintely not trying to leave the organization or anything ...............
My fiancee has revealed to me some of her concerns as well, but their not to the extent as mine,
I have come to realize that I won't loose God's favor because of wanting to be absolutely sure that i'm worshipping Him in the way that He wants me to.

Hi R.F. I went back and read your first post. Looks like a lot has changed in a little over a year. You have gone from not trying to leave the organization....to out!

You mentioned you had a fiancee. How is she doing with your leaving?

You mentioned that you were investigating how God wants to be worshipped. Have you made progress in this?

Well life has been great. My relationship with my parents is great even though it's been a year since i've severed all JW activities. They haven't really put pressure on me lately to attend meetings, but they both are basically inactive themselves. Mom hasn't been to a meeting in 3-4 months, and dad only goes maybe once every week if even that much and never goes in field service.
Like I said fromt he onset, things have been great. I've been actually getting closer with my family, making new non-jw friends, looking forward to starting school next month, and just being glad that I made the break from the religion at my age.

Looks like things are going very well for you with your family, friends and school.

I am praying that you will find the real God and give your life to Him. I have found that Jesus is the only way that gives real joy and peace in my life.

Wishing you the best in your schooling and in your exit from the control of the WT. I am so happy for you.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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She made it!!!

by momzcrazy in

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join me in welcoming az something (sorry too many numbers) !!!!!.

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momzcrazy.

Eliveleth

WELCOME AZ!!!!!

I know you will find a lot of support and love here. We may not all believe the same thing as

far as doctrine is concerned, but we all care about those who were hurt by the Watchtower.

Hope you find healing here.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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I Still Get the Feeling I'm Doing Something Wrong. Ever Get That?

by cognac in

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just about everyone i've known my whole life thinks somethings wrong with me because of my "abnormal thinking".

everyone is in agreement that there is something wrong with me.. i just keeping thinking i'm doing something wrong or i should be doing something different.

i don't feeling terrible about it or anything, just this nagging thing in me.

Eliveleth

Hi Honey,

I would just do the small talk just like you would normally do with your family at an assembly.

How often did you speak of spiritual things before? Probably not very often. Our family just

caught up on family things and what was happening in our lives. Well, you have a lot of things

that you probably would not want to talk about, but all the other things like work, where you went

for dinner, etc. Don't think of it as a big deal and you will be more relaxed.

I know it will work out if you just treat it as a normal thing and not as a confrontation.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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I'm Engaged!!!

by bluesbreaker59 in

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so late last week, i decided that the time was right, and i asked my girlfried to marry me.

i had asked her father earlier in the week for his blessing, which he gave.

we had visited my mother (also df'd) in georgia prior to that, and mom and her hit it off.

Eliveleth

blues,

Congratulations!!! Marriage can be a very happy institution, if

your keep the communication lines open and commit!!! My hubby and

I set two unbendable rules at the beginning: Never go to sleep angry and

never even mention divorce. We have kept those rules (even though at

times it was not easy). We will be married 60 years in February so it must work.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Going back, even for a party, was kinda traumatic...

by littletree in

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my mom called last week to tell me that i'd been invited to the high school graduation party of two girls from my former congregation.

i went because these weren't just any girls; they'd been more like little sisters to me, best friends, right up until i purposely drifted away from the jws in 2003 {my brief jw bio: i started going to the hall with my re-instated mom when i was about 6 years old; i got baptized at her urging when i was 14, on septermber 1, 1991; i was a bible-loving, whole-hearted witness youth until age 25; then i left after a year of "apostate" reading at 26, attending my last meeting at a district convention on september 1, 2003; i've only been back for 1 memorial, and about 5 other times to visit family members or old "friends" at their various halls.

} so yesterday i attended the party (at a seafood restaurant), bringing my wonderful "worldly" husband of 2 years, and his mom, with me.

Eliveleth

Littletree,

My heart goes out to you, Honey,

It is hard to be reminded of the friends you have left behind.

They are the ones that I miss too. We have been out 25 years

but I still miss my JW friends and family.

It does get easier with time and I do get the urge to communicate

with them from time to time. So far I have not acted on it too much

except to send sympathy cards to families of those who have died.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Proctor & Gamble...and more

by tan in

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does anyone remember when the witlesses said that we weren't to use anything with the proctor and gamble symbol (r) because they were demonized or satan worshipers?

.

can you think of any others...of course the smurfs, e.t.....anymore?.

Eliveleth

I think this kind of thinking took its toll in the 60s. I remember either someone

told us or it was in a WT source, but we were told that they used blood in the

adhesive they used to make plywood. Also there was blood in sugar (some kinds).

I remember that we had been to Disneyland and both my kids bought very large suckers.

When they heard this they both voluntarily threw away their candy. As I recall my son

crushed his so that no one would eat it.

I remember the P&G rumor too. There was (is) a lot of craziness connected to the WT.

About aluminum and flouride, I have done a lot of research on this because I was into

health food and alternative medicine. I do believe that aluminum is poison. If you

Google "aluminum poison" you will find over 332,000 sites regarding this. I am not

a scientist so I have not done personal research on this, but I have heard a lot of negatives

from other sources than the WT regarding this. When my father was in prison because

of the draft in 1942, he got aluminum poisoning because the food was cooked in aluminum pots

and had to take medication to counteract it. This was diagnosed by the prison doctor.

Velta

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I'm meeting with the elders...

by cognac in

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i was so adament with my husband about not meeting with them./ i said "no" under no uncertain terms that i did not want to have this meeting.

so, they have been hounding us for days about it, repeatedly asking.. finally, my husband and the elder both come up to me asking about it.

so i just said to elder that the last meeting was discouraging and i don't want to be put through that again.

Eliveleth

Honey,

I am praying for you. I know how these "shepherding" calls can go. I hope and pray

that your husband will see through their front and support you. Just pray and let

God guide you.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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I had a Jehovah's Witness at my door this morning

by Vincent in

i had a jehovah's witness knocking on my door on 31/05/08 it was very happy female, i could of have shouted at her but i was very close going that way as my legs were shaking a little bit like jelly as i was talking to the jehovah's witness finding polite way of shooing her away.

i have used the word cult to them but they denied it.

i said about emma gough but they said its because she wasn't looked after.

Eliveleth

I think it's better to be polite, let them get through their semon and then pick one subject that you can draw out of them and, without arguing or being uppity, point out the error of the doctrine or belief and allow them to try to defend it. By the time they leave, you will not have won anything right off...but, it may just plant a seed of question or doubt. It might make them look it up, if only to prove themselves right...but could shake up their faith in the teaching if they see the same evidences that we saw.

I agree with undercover. I think that the kind people in the door to door work had more effect on my leaving than the accusers

and mean ones ever. I just ask them a question and let them think. They will (maybe) go away thinking about that. I know that I

did many times. I wondered where they got that idea. Could be from the Bible? hee hee

Velta

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Ever Since I Stopped Speaking to My Parents and Sister...

by cognac in

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i haven't needed to take my ptsd meds.. i've quit drinking altogether.. i stopped drinking coffee (just decaf).

i'm eating a lot healthier.

i just feel a lot more calm and so much happier its not even funny.... i know that i've had to stop taking my meds a lot because i haven't had to deal with them, not sure if the other things have anything to do with it or not... i just think it's a bit sad that i feel so much happier with them out of my life... i feel like i can grow as a person so much more.

Eliveleth

Cognac, Dear,

Have missed you. So glad you are doing better. Sad that we sometimes have to

"shun" our family to get better. This is a healthy shunning. It is for your health,

unlike the shunning the WT teaches those in the organization to do. I am praying

that your parents and sister will "get it" and see what they are doing to you.

I love you, Honey,

Just hang in there and leave it all to God. He will work it out for your good and His

glory.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Saturday, June 14, Dallas, TX

by cruzanheart in

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well, it's not exactly on the date but the first opportunity thereafter!.

it's been a hell of a ride.

we were both regular pioneers when we met and we weathered the storms of getting married (both sets of parents did their best to keep it from happening), chris leaving the borg, me staying in for another 15 years and two kids, his family disowning him, my father's suicide .

Eliveleth

Cruz and Big Tex,

It is a little far for us as we live in California, but CONGRATULATION ON YOUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY.

It is quite rare for folks to stay married for that length of time in this era of lack of committment.

Very happy for you. Have a wonderful day with good friends and good food.

Love and hugs,

Velta