Posts by Paralipomenon

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Bill Bowen of Silent Lambs?

by PublishingCult in

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apparently, i am so out of the loop and did not know bill bowen has been disfellowshipped from jwn.. could someone kindly give me the short version or post a link that lays out the narrative so that i can understand what happened with him .

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Paralipomenon

I can understand people not following rules having their membership revoked, but I recall on JWD that some other ex-witness sites were added to the profanity filter.

I remember I was sending a PM to someone about a post I had read and the forum software wouldn't allow it and kept removing it. I think it's fair to say that banning a user is rather commonplace on the internet and in fact JWN is much more tollerant than other communities I am a part of, but I don't agree that people can't end up "disfellowshipped" from here as well.

Blacklisting any posts on a website because of the actions of the owner rubs me the wrong way, but as Farkel mentioned, it's not my dime running the place. I really do think that there is a level of cognitive dissonance that prevents people from seeing how closely the ex-witness community mirrors that of a congregation, but that's a topic for another day. :)

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Start preparing now for 2011 memorial night demonstration ! Sunday, April 17, 2011, after sundown

by koolaid-man in

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now is a good time to start making preparations for the memorial night demonstration at your kingdom hall sunday, april 17, 2011, after sundown.

the evils of the watchtower org.have to be exposed and this is an ideal time to do it.

many around the world have been adversely affected by their association with jehovah's witnesses.

Paralipomenon

I really hope Rick has bought a suit that fits.

He has the full look of a used car salesman wearing a suit that shows he's obviously had a growth spurt since it's purchase.

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

Paralipomenon

I think you are all missing the key piece of news that came out of this post.

Lovelylil is the first apostate of Rick Fearson's church! :)

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I was freaked out on the six screens of the wt confrence call tonight

by JunkYardDog in

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Paralipomenon

I am totally with FF.

I hated the meetings that were 2 hours, how anyone can sit down and listen for 3-6 hours boggles me.

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Fox News Using Electronic Brain Washing? Hidden Hypnotic Signal Found

by freeman in

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fox news is clearly identified with the republican / conservative camp.

recently i came across a thread where some of our more passionate posters were discussing the latest fox transgression.

it was being alleged that fox was overtly lying about protests occurring in wisconsin while the infamous palm tree smoking-gun video clearly showed otherwise.

Paralipomenon

Interestingly Fox applied to open a conservative news channel in Canada in the same style as they have in the US right now. The biggest hurdle they had was a legal mandate that broadcast news cannot knowingly air something they know to be misleading or inaccurate.

The law was put up for repeal but when the voting public got wind of it, the motion was quickly crushed.

Scary to think that Fox News can't exist without the freedom to mislead or lie.

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Did having children make you a better or worse JW

by journey-on in

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after i had children, i changed gradually in the way i thought about the religion i was raised in.

one day, it dawned on me that if my child was injured in an accident and needed blood to survive, there was no way in the world i would say "no" to a blood transfusion.

why continue the charade?

Paralipomenon

I was content to support my wife being a witness until our children started going to school. I really couldn't submit them to the riddicule of not standing for the national anthem, concerts, missing birthdays and christmas when I knew I didn't believe it.

Eventually I was sure they wouldn't be part of the witnesses, but I didn't want to sit back and let the religion poison their childhood when I could do something to stop it.

Making a stand nearly destroyed our marriage but it all ended well.

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What is happening to JWN ?...So many topics not relating to Jehovah's Witnesses!

by koolaid-man in

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note the home page..wow how it has changed.. jehovah's witness discussion forumthe place to discuss anything relating to jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower bible and tract society... or just make new friends!.

many of the posts have nothing to do with with jehovah's witnesses and new ones coming on this board would be turned off by the content of many of these off color posts.

foul inappropriate language which is not proper or suitable for exiting witnesses to visibly inspect.

Paralipomenon

Okay, I feel I need to weigh in on this. This is a community, not an activist site. A community has many and varied interests.

To be perfectly blunt, it looks like you left the witnesses but still miss the power of putting on a suit and feeling important. There are no ranks to climb in the ex-JW community. Any respect is earned, not commanded. At least for me, it's not earned by telling me how to spend my personal time.

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Ireland: judge orders baby to be given blood after dramatic court hearing

by behemot in

a judge ordered the baby son of a jehovah witness couple to be given a life-saving blood transfusion after a dramatic court hearing in his home in the early hours of the morning.. judge gerard hogan said barristers for temple street children's hospital arrived at his house at 1am on december 27 and argued the desperately ill three-month-old boy needed urgent treatment.. neither the infant nor his parents were identified in the high court judgment, which was published today.. judge hogan ruled that while parents have the constitutional right to raise their children to their own religious and philosophical views, the state has a vital interest in ensuring children are protected.. "but there is absolutely no doubt but that the court can intervene in a case such as this where the child's life, general welfare and other vital interests are at stake," he added.. judge hogan heard that when the baby boy was born in september 2010 he had been a twin, with a sister who did not survive.. on christmas day the infant was suffering from acute bronchiolitis when his condition deteriorated.

at one point he stopped breathing and had to be resuscitated.. he was transferred to temple street the following day where his condition became critical.

his liver was distended and by that evening his haemoglobin level plummeted to the point where a transfusion was necessary.. the judge said while the boy's parents were clearly anxious for his welfare and had allowed the use of blood products earlier that day, as committed jehovah witnesses they were steadfast in their opposition to this procedure.. the hospital made contact with the court's duty register at 10pm that night and the high court hearing was swiftly arranged.. consultant dr kevin carson, clinical director of intensive care, argued the youngster's life was in danger and there were no medical alternatives to a transfusion.. the parents were not legally represented at the judge's house, but were aware of the issues as the court had previously sanctioned a blood transfusion for another child of theirs.. judge hogan continued: "there is no doubt as to the sincerity of the religious beliefs of the parents.. "they struck me as wholesome and upright parents who were most anxious for the welfare of their child, yet steadfast in their own religious beliefs.

Paralipomenon

More and more courts are ruling to grant blood transfusions to minors. I wonder how long it will be before courts just make it a law that parents cannot decline life saving medical treatment to minors based on religous grounds?

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Question for all you 'smart (witty)' people.

by misguided in

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a ny bethelite is in town.

he arrived yesterday.

his dad is not doing well.. he has no idea i was a jw, let alone apostate.

Paralipomenon

If religion comes up, you could say something like "I heard witnesses were a cult" That would open the door to a very frank discussion of him trying to defend witnesses.

You could follow up with any array of questions that might get get him thinking, but I wouldn't push it too far. Just plant a few seeds and change the topic.

"If you find out at some point you don't agree with some teachings, can you just leave, or do they try to brand you to be shunned?"

"Do the leaders consider their word to be followed as if it came from God?" Follow up:"If they claim to not to be perfect, how would a regular member challenge a doctrine issue?"

"Do they mandate that you dress or act in particular fashion that requires uniformity?"

I wouldn't push any of the issue regardless of what he retorts with. After a few points I'd say to close the topic with something like "It seems you're happy with them, but it just sounds too cultish for my taste, let's talk about something else."

Since he won't feel that he "won" the argument or able to dismiss your opinion as apostate propoganda, the questions might linger and gnaw away at his subconcious as he continues to go through the Witness mandated routine.

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Flashback: How Clinton exploited Oklahoma City for political gain

by NeckBeard in

there are reports democrats plan an extensive effort to link the tea party, sarah palin, rush limbaugh, and republicans in general to the shootings in arizona.

the idea is to pin blame on those groups much as bill clinton was able to pin blame on newt gingrich, limbaugh, and republicans in the aftermath of the april 19, 1995 oklahoma city bombing.

it's an effort that was previewed last year, on the 15th anniversary of the oklahoma city attack, when clinton himself tried out some of the themes we are hearing today in the aftermath of violence in arizona.

Paralipomenon

It's amazing how quickly extremists run to the center as soon as some nut job actually takes some action that is pretty much in harmony with what they spout 24/7.