Posts by J-ex-W

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Should I mention my marital rape to my 18-yr-old son?

by J-ex-W in

first---thank you, lady lee, for providing the articles on rape.

the one on marital rape is especially catching my eye now.

now, the question, and i welcome any serious answers: my boys are all seriously alienated from me by my abusive jw ex-husband, who has physical custody (because of my physical health limitations).

J-ex-W

Kate---- HOW HORRIBLE!!!! (((((((((((((((((((((KATE)))))))))))))))))))))))))) I have no words.

If you give them no cause to condemn you, eventually they will stop doing it.

Here is the kicker: The fact that I have stopped going to meetings IS the first and foremost thing they condemn about me. Everything else takes a back seat to that. So, really, for me to 'give them no cause to condemn me,' I would have to start going to the KH again, and out in service, and listen to the WT's 'wisdom' about wifely subjection to JW bastard husbands like my ex (who, of course, is in good standing). ...But you know what that's all about.

Did anyone see that I'm asking now about whether I should send an article on Parental Alienation Syndrome? Is that 'neutral' enough, but still something to get a point through (because, honestly, I don't anticipate having next contact with my kids for years to come, if ever, especially if I sit back and do nothing). They are all very active--in fact, my 18-yr-old is about to have a part onstage at his circuit assembly in February. They are very well-trained---by me--and it's coming back to bite me in the a**.

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What Naughty Things Did You Know Of That Went On In Your Hall?

by minimus in

jw
friends

as an elder, i knew a lot of things that happened in the congregation, including "secret sins".

what i also knew was that some persons were quite good at being sneaky----especially the teens.

years after my daughter stopped hanging around certain friends and she was in her 20's, she told me little juicy tidbits of what some of her best friends regularly got away with.

J-ex-W

Yes... I was referring to your 'assistance.' I wouldn't make a scene about it, but I wouldn't point out 'amenities,' either. Actually...I don't know if I'm lying. I wonder if I would feel compelled to say something--that I won't tell anyone, but that the wife deserves to be considered through all this. Maybe I wouldn't say anything...but I DO know I wouldn't point out fun stuff to do together. I believe in the respect of fidelity.

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What Naughty Things Did You Know Of That Went On In Your Hall?

by minimus in

jw
friends

as an elder, i knew a lot of things that happened in the congregation, including "secret sins".

what i also knew was that some persons were quite good at being sneaky----especially the teens.

years after my daughter stopped hanging around certain friends and she was in her 20's, she told me little juicy tidbits of what some of her best friends regularly got away with.

J-ex-W

Lawrence------- ...yeah...nothing like helping another lout cheat....

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Should I mention my marital rape to my 18-yr-old son?

by J-ex-W in

first---thank you, lady lee, for providing the articles on rape.

the one on marital rape is especially catching my eye now.

now, the question, and i welcome any serious answers: my boys are all seriously alienated from me by my abusive jw ex-husband, who has physical custody (because of my physical health limitations).

J-ex-W

Thank you, Wednesday. I sort had--but no longer do have--a paper trail about the abuses. I was granted Orders for Protectin twice but, unfortunately, had both of them stricken from the record (under influence of my then-husband) when we made up after several months' separation both times. I was busy doing the dutiful JW wife thing--trying to make a hard stance for my own safety/ sanity's sake, but then backing away from that hard line (like a good JW submissive wife) in order to make up again. --Believing he would have learned a lesson (as all his words and temporary actions supported).

So...I don't know if those documents are even accessible anymore.

Anyway, the consensus here seems to be that I would sound vindictive and be dismissed at best and cause lasting psychological scars at worst if I do bring these things out in the open. --Could it be that that would be the case only if he is hearing it from me? Would it be easier on them if they found out through a new court action that I undertake? I sometimes wonder, too, if I should go back and try to prosecute for the rape and other abuses and mental distress caused (and adverse effects on physical health too).

I guess I want this stuff brought out publicly because--well--justice demands it, and future generations' emotional/ physical safety may be at stake. Wondering, also, if I should NOT mention the rape stuff, but DO send my 18-yr-old an article about Parental Alienation Syndrome and hope he is discerning enough to connect the right dots. My son is [all my sons are] exceptionally intelligent and mature (his dad's/ WT influence notwithstanding). SO...I guess that's my newest question: Do I send my son the article about PAS and hope he gets it, or is that more of 'putting the kids in the middle'?

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Clergy Abuse, Dubs==Catholics

by Nathan Natas in

from: http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20070125.html.

clergy abuse developments, in denmark and california, regarding the jehovah's witnesses, the catholic church, and an oscar-nominated documentary.

by marci hamilton .

J-ex-W

Thanks for posting, Nathan!

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Should I mention my marital rape to my 18-yr-old son?

by J-ex-W in

first---thank you, lady lee, for providing the articles on rape.

the one on marital rape is especially catching my eye now.

now, the question, and i welcome any serious answers: my boys are all seriously alienated from me by my abusive jw ex-husband, who has physical custody (because of my physical health limitations).

J-ex-W

Thank you, Shelly.

Thank you to all of you who responded here.

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What is marital rape?

by Lady Lee in

i had never heard of this term until i was divorced for many years.

the term "marital rape" confused me as i am sure it confused others.. but i knew what it was.

i knew how it felt.

J-ex-W

Lady Lee---- Your post could have been written by me!!! ONLY difference is that both scenarios described came from ONE husband for me. So sorry to hear you had that horror...!

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Looks Like the Andersons Lost in Court

by Beep,Beep in

came across this a few minutes ago.

http://www.wmcstations.com/global/story.asp?s=5973793

J-ex-W

Big Tex--- BIG HUGS!!!!!

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March AWAKE

by mouthy in

just had a call from a jw undercover.... says the march awake is teaching the question on sex again "what young people ask" telling them about hooking up!!!!

i am begining to think that maybe those up in the writing department must get horny while writng all this stuff -the lad that called says he gets horny reading it.

pity!!!!

J-ex-W

"How Can I Say No to Sex at School?"

Say, "I'm sorry, Mrs. Johnson, but I really don't need you to conjugate my verb today. I already did it. Thank you for offering, though."

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What is marital rape?

by Lady Lee in

i had never heard of this term until i was divorced for many years.

the term "marital rape" confused me as i am sure it confused others.. but i knew what it was.

i knew how it felt.

J-ex-W

((((((((((((((((((( Lady Lee))))))))))))))))))))))

I just started reading your thread/ story for the first time. I am so sorry, Hon. NOBODY should have to go through this. And yet, too many of us do.

3. Blood-guilt
I can't find this right now but the principle was that if a witness A did something to cause witness B to be stumbled then witness A would be responsible for the loss of that person's standing and possible life.

You know...this doesn't hold true if witness A is male and witness B is female. When that's the case, responsibility is absolved for the (male) witnesses A--any 'bloodguilt' being nixed by their dicks.