...using Bible Scripture (I knwo they can quote whatever the WTS says about it, but Im trying to understand how do they come to that conclusng using Bible verses.) Also, in doing a little research, there is something very interesting that came up, and I never EVER hear this from the JW. They always claim that the 12 tribes iN Rev. 7 are not the same ones in Genesis, yet I don't know if they know that the 12 tribes in rev. are named after Jacob's Sons?
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The 144,000...How do JWs get that only 144K are going to Heaven?
by A-Team in...using bible scripture (i knwo they can quote whatever the wts says about it, but im trying to understand how do they come to that conclusng using bible verses.
also, in doing a little research, there is something very interesting that came up, and i never ever hear this from the jw.
they always claim that the 12 tribes in rev.
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Christrians: Why are JWs so aganist being born aganin/Salvation?
by A-Team inin the past 3 weeks, i have had 2 jws deny salvation or say that only the 144k have to be born again and 1 even going as far as asking "what do i need to be saved from?
" but yet, there are several bible scriptures that says otherwise.
please discuss.
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In the past 3 weeks, I have had 2 JWs deny Salvation or say that only the 144K have to be Born AGain and 1 even going as far as asking "What do I need to be saved from?" But yet, there are several Bible scriptures that says otherwise. Please discuss.
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If this were true, do you think a BOE or the WTS would stoop this low?
by R.F. ina few of years ago at a circuit assembly the district overseer said that in another area that there was a 3 year old that wanted to be an unbaptized publisher.
the boe said that he needed to know how to read, so his parents helped him fine tune his reading skills and he qualified as a publisher at the age of 4.
4 years old!!
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I'm sorry, and for someone who gave his life to the lord at age 3 and a half, I'm the LAST one who should be talking but will say this. A typicial 3,4 and 5 year old has a difficult time deciding on what their favorite Sesame Street character is, do they want crust on no crust on their bread, and what their favorite color is let alone deciding on trying to become a Pioneer.
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A JW is threting to sue over a Video on YouTube unless its taken down.
by A-Team ini have to share this, because i actually think he will go through with this...and if he does, i think the wts will be embaressed to no end: the vidoe in discussion is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtpotsd8ml8 .
him to the poster on youtube: .
stity - i must say you have no idea what your talking about.
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I read it, and I also posted the link to my College Alumni Message Board, and they are having a field day with this. The only other religion they can't stand more then JWs is Scientology, and we bash them on a daily basis...Zenu..Who is gullible enough to believe that? ::points at Tom Cruise::
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A JW is threting to sue over a Video on YouTube unless its taken down.
by A-Team ini have to share this, because i actually think he will go through with this...and if he does, i think the wts will be embaressed to no end: the vidoe in discussion is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtpotsd8ml8 .
him to the poster on youtube: .
stity - i must say you have no idea what your talking about.
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I want him to fwd this to the JW legal Department, if they sue, They must prove that I have slander them, not the otehr way around.
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A JW is threting to sue over a Video on YouTube unless its taken down.
by A-Team ini have to share this, because i actually think he will go through with this...and if he does, i think the wts will be embaressed to no end: the vidoe in discussion is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtpotsd8ml8 .
him to the poster on youtube: .
stity - i must say you have no idea what your talking about.
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I have to share this, because I actually think he will go through with this...and If he does, I think the WTS will be embaressed to no end: The vidoe in discussion is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTpotSD8ml8
Him to the poster on YouTube:
Stity - I must say you have no idea what your talking about. Your YouTube is a COMPLETE fabrication of facts and is kinda' slanderous if not outright libelous. You care to challenge your contentions in an open court of law? Lesse' who is the father of the lie and the first slanderer? Hmmm... could it be... [ChurchLady]
Me, after calling me a Tool, trying to egg him on:
Lets say there are many Christians....ex-JWs and JWs who want to get out, but cant, who will be bale to help me with this. Now, only if you have the 'grapefruits' to actually go through with it...and Im pretty sure you dont.
Him:
I have no idea what you're talking about and suspect you don't either. Stity made a whole bunch of unsubstantiated accusations that are bordering on slander and libel. If WTB&TS legal department wants to enter a 'cause of action' and force YouTube to identify Stity and serve him with a civil litigation subpoena... well that would be entirely up to them. I don't speak for them. I just KNOW they are not taking a wait and see attitude to slander/libel any more. So don't be surprised if it happens...
SOLUTION: Stop lying about JWs because you have "sour grapes" over your committee meeting decision. If you weren't unrepentant you would still be there. Who do you base your faith on God or noble men? This should be a no-brainer for you if you were a MS or Elder - huh?
Grapefruits indeed!
Me, really calling him out:
.......Don't sing it...BRING IT! Matter in fact, bring it aganist my Video as well, and I'll take down the entire Money Making orginiation known as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Myself and him don't have jack to hid, and don't have jack to be afraid aganist. Matter in fact, FWD me name to the legal department...I DARE YOU! Let them do it and see what happens in court. I'm giving you ..well, IM DEMANDING you to do it!
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Ex-JWs, does the WTS still teach this?
by A-Team in"when jesus was on earth as a man, he was a hebrew, and now in his capacity as jehovah's royal executioner he is called by the hebrew name abad'don, which mean destruction.
in the greek in which the inspired christian scriptures were written his similar title is apollyon, which means destroyer" (watchtower, 12/1/1961, pg.
abaddon (hebrew:????
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"When Jesus was on earth as a man, he was a Hebrew, and now in his capacity as Jehovah's royal Executioner he is called by the Hebrew name Abad'don, which mean Destruction. In the Greek in which the inspired Christian Scriptures were written his similar title is Apollyon, which means Destroyer" (Watchtower, 12/1/1961, pg. 719.)
With that said:
Abaddon (Hebrew:?????,Avaddon - destruction) , in demonology, was chief of the demons of the seventh hierarchy. He was called The Destroyer and, in the Book of Revelation, St John called him the King of the locusts (Rev 9: 7-11).
Abaddon (Hebrew ????? Avadon, meaning "destruction"). In Biblical poetry (Job 26:6; Proverbs 15:11), it comes to mean "place of destruction", or the realm of the dead, and is associated with Sheol. Abaddon is also one of the compartments of Gehenna.[1] -
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I think I may know how the JWs came up with the 607 BCE date...
by A-Team inand it's really simple and silly error, if you are not careful...but the main mistake is hiding the error.
they counted the wrong way from 597 bce, the year that zedekiah's reign as king of judah started.
once someone inside the wts caught wind of this error, they had to change the date of zedekiah's reign from 597 bce to 617 bce, to make their entire theology fit, or their theology whould have been shot to bits.
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and it's really simple and silly error, if you are not careful...but the main mistake is hiding the error. They counted the wrong way from 597 BCE, the year that Zedekiah's reign as King of Judah started. Once someone inside the WTS caught wind of this error, they had to change the date of Zedekiah's reign from 597 BCE to 617 BCE, to make their entire theology fit, or their theology whould have been shot to bits.
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Is this a contradiction?
by dedpoet inwhen i was studying with the jws, one of the things i was always .
told was that the bible does not contradict itself.
now i'm no longer.
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I'm not an expert on the Bible, but i can tell you that all translations except for the Orginials, have some sort of translation error in it, mainly because of language barriers You need to check out the Greek and Hebrew..
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The WTS sounds more and more like strickly a business to me.....
by R.F. inthere was yet another disfellowshipping going in my congo announce the other night.
that makes 6 i believe now, 5 i'm sure of that have been dfed in the past year or so in my congo alone, and they don't seem to be making any effort towards reinstatement.
i know the reasons behind all those, that's why i know they were dfed and not daed.
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R.F. It you really think about it, it is. I got home today after Witnessing to a JW ( I will post the story late today, when my post count Increases), and I found a PM in my YouTube box, citing that a video I posted was wrong, and they do not go around disturbing other peoples beliefs. I bought up the Field Service on Christmas, which really bothers me, sad a few things on it, and girl really couldn't respond to it. I told her, point blank, Why is it ok for you to bug families son a High Holy Day, trying to push your beliefs, while attacking others about Celebrating Christmas, but yet It's not ok for someone to come witness to you, or witness outside of a Convention after its over.