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  There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!

  by Gill in

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  my neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.

  the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.

  the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.

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  Gill

  No need to apologise.........no harm done.........I understand where you are coming from

  Fi
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  There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!

  by Gill in

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  2. experiences

  my neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.

  the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.

  the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.

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  Burn

  We have the same options as the USA.......we have the option to pay for private health care and choose who more or less where and who administer our healthcare..........

  Oh and we have this little thing called the NHS which reduces our options but provides highly qualified GP's, Specialist Surgeons, nurses etc etc for all and we apy for that via our taxes

  Fi ;)
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  Theocratic Party

  by Aleman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today we have political parties from the republic and democratic sides trying to get your vote so they can get the presidency.

  but, can you really trust them?

  how secure are you to have a man or woman lead us to a secure and peaceful future?

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  Aleman

  The problem I have with your thinking is that.................. you dont!!!!!

  You repeat, to the word, an article from one of the publications of the organisation of the jehovahs witnesses like some over zealous parrot; an article similar to which many of us on here will have read a thousand times and expect what of it?

  You know, for most of us we have heard this stuff a zillion times, some of us from conception forward.......You know, we have tried to ram it down worldly folks throats just like you are doing to us..........You know, and if you dont you should, that some and probably most of us, believed all of what you believe, some probably loved believing sated by the promise of everlasting life in paradise earth and you also know that just about everybody on this site has chosen to no longer be associated with this religion........we have chosen this because our eyes have been opened and we now know it is not the 'truth', that is a form of brainwashing mind control based on false prophecy and deceit.

  You have repeatedly being given information that you know proves your religion to be wrong and deceitful.

  So, why oh why, do you continue to post garbage like this?

  What is your motivation?

  Are you short on hours...........because talking to apostates does not count and is certainly a waste of your time.

  Gotta love you for trying though...........
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  There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!

  by Gill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.

  the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.

  the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.

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  Gill

  You seem to be making an awful lot of assumptions about what I think as your words bare little resemblance to the 2 posts I have made on this subject, and you appear to infer that I think the NHS is just 'fine and dandy' and I have no concern for a minority of people who do not receive excellent treatment......oh and I think its free.

  My point in both of my posts is for those who are soon to be 'guests' of the NHS to deliver their babies that they need not get into a sudden panic about what sort of experience they can expect based on the bad experience of the minority.

  Having lost my first baby, I know to well the grief surrounding such an event for all the family........but I also know that had my son been born today his chances of survival would have been far greater because of medical advancement.

  In no way do I think that the NHS is perfect, or that this government has not had an adverse effect on the NHS and I would gladly support a government that increased funding for the NHS, promised and actioned a proposal for improving the NHS service and improving the standard delivered to all. Whichever government that has the unenviable task of improving the NHS has a big job on its hands and one that cannot be accomplished overnight ............. for now we have to work with what we have got, and what we have is fundamentally a successful system albeit in need of serious overhaul.

  As a matter of interest how are you suggesting we 'demand the best for everyone' or 'fight for it to be first class again'? Because if there is some physical way in which I personally can make a difference (other than voting for a government that makes the reform of the NHS a priority) I would be willing to consider giving time to it.

  Meanwhile I reiterate my earlier sentiment for those who are soon to be using the NHS maternity facilities.........dont get into a panic over it and if you have concerns talk to your GP or midwife about them.

  Fi
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  There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!

  by Gill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.

  the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.

  the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.

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  I think this thread highlights once again the hand of the media..........Horror stories in the UK............Horror stories in the USA.

  I do hope those who have babies due soon (mum's or dad's) decide to keep their rational head on and approach the birth of their child with all the joy and happiness they should, whilst understanding that giving birth is painful, and although it would appear some hospitals are overstretched, be confident that if you do have an emergency the people you will need are close at hand.

  Rather than jump on the next plane to USA (as suggested by Burn who is totally against any form of UHC, and paid somewhere in the region of £1500 for the service he received, in addition to his normal monthly health insurance payments) if you want to go private and can afford to, pay for it.....you too will be kept in the hotel style manner described by Burn........but if you cant remember 1000's of babies are born in the UK every year with the medical assistance and healthcare of the NHS and a very high percentage of those are satisfied with the service they get

  Fi.
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  What is the HIDDEN purpose of the Watchtower corporation?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does the average man or woman on the street only have a vague awareness of who jehovah's witnesses are and what they stand for?

  isn't it weird they know next to nothing after over a hundred years of door to door work???.

  ask yourself why this has been such an ineffective ministry.. one actor, tom cruise, has raised more awareness about his own religion (scientology) than all the watchtower magazines placed at a million households.

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  Terry

  Two thought provoking threads............have you being overdosing on a fish diet recently
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  Shuning the shunner

  by loosie in

  1. jw
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  my daughter goes to a school where one of the office personel is a jw.

  my hubby is df'd i haven't been to a meeting in 3 years.

  when we go into the office and have to talk to her she directs all of her responses to me even if my husband is the one that asked the question.. once my husband went in there with my daughter and this person didn't direct her answers to my husband who asked the question, but to my daughter who was just tagging along.. this is stupid.

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  Loosie

  It is her problem........one of immaturity, allowing herself to be manipulated and brainwashed and actually going beyond what is required of her by her religion........dont let it be yours by worrying about her behaviour.

  If you choose not to speak to her because you are not comfortable with the way in which your husband is being treated by her then dont question yourself or your motive, if you choose to speak with her remember your decision is based on your own thoughts and beliefs and is not influenced by a cult.

  Personally speaking I would probably choose not to speak with her, but I would probably state to her that I would rather deal with someone else as I found her attitude towards my husband unecessary and disrespectful.

  Fi
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  Baby Bible Bashers

  by fifi40 in

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  2. current

  watched this rather disturbing documentary last night about young children involved in preaching some form of religious faith.......its is probably worth clicking on the video clips to get a feel of this programme.. http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/c/cutting_edge/baby_bible_bashers/.

  one of the most alarming things for me is the story of ana dias who started preaching age 3, and now as a teenager admits to sharing her father's bed.. but in general the way these kids preach is quite scary in terms of the brainwashing and manipulation that these small children are exposed to...........reminds me of another religion i know.. fi.

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  Watched this rather disturbing documentary last night about young children involved in preaching some form of religious faith.......its is probably worth clicking on the video clips to get a feel of this programme.

  http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/cutting_edge/baby_bible_bashers/

  One of the most alarming things for me is the story of Ana Dias who started preaching age 3, and now as a teenager admits to sharing her father's bed.

  But in general the way these kids preach is quite scary in terms of the brainwashing and manipulation that these small children are exposed to...........reminds me of another religion I know.

  Fi
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  There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!

  by Gill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.

  the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.

  the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.

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  Sirona

  I wouldnt be too alarmed by this.....I have friends who have recently had babies, and I have friends who are nurses and some doctors and this does sound like a 'one off' to me............as usually care for pregnant ladies in the UK is very good and this has certainly been my experience and that of my friends and family.

  As for pain relief rights in labour I have added this link for you to look at and which should allay any fears

  http://www.womens-health.co.uk/pain.asp

  Hope this puts your mind at rest

  Fi
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  Iran - to Stone To Death 2 Sisters

  by Rabbit in

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  http://snafu-ed.blogspot.com/2008/02/iranian-sisters-to-be-stoned-to-death.html.

  this is not a 'muslim bashing' thread.

  it is a perfect example why old words, found in caves, written by someone you don't know...in a desert far, far away can be dangerous.. turkey, a 98% muslim country is a secular country.

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  Whilst I do not support the Muslim religion it seems we have a very narrow perspective............

  HS words say it all..........."Islam is a religion in a state of arrested adolescence."

  Pictures of women being stoned to death are very emotive..............how do you find these pictures

  What we do to muslims for oil.