Yes they want you to think that and many other things, sad to say with millions yet captive they are still very successful. Feels good taking off the blinders, enjoy the forum and I wish you the best on your other post.
avidbiblereader
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They make you think there are no good people out there.
by LynnTink inwhat a wonderful response i have received from my last (which was my first post) post from everyone here.
the one thing that was drilled into my head was that you can not trust anyone that is not a jw.
i had only one worldly friend since high school and she has been there for me thru everything.
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Oops.... I Did It Again!
by evetteto inwell i'm really feeling down about jumping all over my husband with all this new info i find here.
i'm really upset with myself because i dont want to use this info in a negative way ( as to say aha!...told you so ), but as a means to enlighten him, because of my love for him i had the hoove in mouth disease.
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avidbiblereader
As apples of gold in silver carving so is a word spoken at the right time said Solomon. Do as others have stated, slowly anything other than that and he will fight and have his defense mechanisim up. Try using thought provoking questions and let HIm come to the conclusion, that way you are not telling him but he is using his own brain and you are training his reasoning abilities. Think about what you want to say or ask and many times it is not what you say but how you say it. Best of wishes and keep the faith.
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avidbiblereader
I have read many of the posts on this thread and it sounds like you are describing the Christ as I know him from my personal Bible reading. That is who I would pick, many of you have described him already.
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If it wasn't for the "Truth".......
by restrangled inhow many out there heard that statement in their lives?.
the big one for me was: "if it wasn't for the truth"...your father would have beat the tar out of you.
funny, thats all i remember happening through the years.. r.. .
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avidbiblereader
sad I heard it and I confess I even said it, like so many witnesses I must have looked like one of those dolls with a string coming out of my chest that you would pull and I would repeat stupid things.
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Is the Watchtower really this decietful? Say it aint so. Really?
by icocer ini found this page that list what they believe are their top 10 deceptive quotes in the "should you believe in the trinity" booklet.
the site is trinitarian.
my itention is not to prove or disporve the trinity, it is to find out if the watchtower is really this decietful.
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avidbiblereader
abandoned that was good, perfect example of how it happens
but yes they are really dishonest, they quote, misquote and completely make stuff up to tickle the ears, get out and run for your life!!!!!
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Lost and looking for answers
by LynnTink inthis is my story.
i was born a jw and never knew anything else because my parents shelter from everything but for other reason.
from the time i can remember my dad beat my mom.
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avidbiblereader
It sounds as if you have had your share of trouble and problems. Amazing how anyone can go through so much and a bunch of earthly men can judge you and DF for what, your need for love and friendship perhaps, maybe to share some feelings of wanting to be loved. My story may or may not help you. I too have had a hard life. I was raised in the witnesses until age 11, my family life had been one of violence and I too was sexually molested from the age of 6-8 years old by a family member 11 years older than me, I was beaten, all but choked to death everytime I was molested, had my life threatened by my abuser , I will leave the details out, they are way to sick to mention. I was put up for adoption with my sister at age 1, my parents declined when they found out we would be separated, at age five my father who had been extremely violent held a shotgun to my head and threaten to blow my head off. I am the last of 6 kids, at age 6 I was going bald and broke out with cold sores all over my face from stress in the family, the school knew of the extreme family problems and could do nothing about it in the mid 60"s. When I eventually went for therapy at age 30 my three team of professionals and the mental hospital I committed myself to for two weeks said my case was the worse they ever heard. I remember fleeing the house and sleeping in cars, KH floors as no one would take us in even for one night. At age 11 we stopped going to all meetings and I became engrossed in drugs, sex and rock and roll. I partied hard until age 18 and returned to the witnesses, (stupid is stupid does). There I thought I would find peace and rest, got baptized, married a good JW girl who later cheated on me with my best friend at the time. I became everything a good witness is suppose to and you can read my post of what the witnesses put my family and myself through it is not pretty, there is much more but no one would believe it (it should be on dateline). Life with the witnesses was a living hell, not all but the majority, it was a real eye opener for me. I would have to say, they are the most unloving group of people I have ever met, the most condemning judgmental, the most self righteous people I know. Yes I have been through living hell in my life also. I truly know how you feel and what you have gone through. It was not easy for the longest time to deal and speak of my abuse as a child, to deal with the reality of the life of a lie with the witnesses, to deal with wasting 22 years of my life, to deal with the dishonesty of the witnesses and trying to put a smile on my face. How did I get through it?
I now put my complete faith in the Bible where it should have been all along. I read the Bible and throw it all on Jah, I have seen Him answer my prayers, I know that He is a part of my life. Do not take out on Jah for what others have put you through, I made that mistake for 2 years after I left the org. I read the Bible almost daily. I pray to Him more than ever, on personal matters, in my reading and studying, I pray for wisdom and love to fill my life. I have learned that the things seen are temporary but the things unseen are forever. There is a better life coming, where it is doesnt matter. I have prayed for peace and I know I have it. My father is now 86, as the last of 6 children I have been put as Power of Attorney of my fathers affairs, excutor of the will and my siblings have complete faith in my taking care of everything honestly, I am one of the main caregivers with 4 of my siblings. I have come to terms with my abuser, with my father for what he put me through and also the witnesses and my ex and her family. There is no future in the past. I know that my forgiving them has made me a better person, I am known by others around me a peaceful, loving and kind Bible lover (please don't take that as I am bragging). I am not glad for having to go through what I have, but then again I am not sure I would be who I am today if I hadn't. I still have a long way to go with my Christianity and pursuit of pleasing Jah and Christ but I know with all my heart, I have their favor and love with me. I know that they are the ones who have brought me this far. I wanted to commit suicide when my life was anything but normal, I know that it was Jah and Christ who brought me through that and will bring further in my pursuit of putting on the mind of Christ. Turn to Jah in prayer, there are many scriptures to support he is with you and the lowly. Turn to His Word and leave man made religion and all it's heartache behind, turn to the God of true comfort, Is 41:10,13 says
10 Don’t be afraid, for I am with you.
Don’t be discouraged, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you. I will hold you up with my victorious right hand.13 For I hold you by your right hand—
I, the L ord your God.
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I had an interesting day.
by Abandoned ini worked at the restaurant this morning.
i got up in time for breakfast so i was in a pretty good mood.
i was assigned to the dining room so i basically had to greet customers, clean tables, make coffee and such.
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avidbiblereader
Looks like you were having fun, maybe the Santa was a witness who realized that you were the evil apostate, maybe you caught them like so many have been busted? Good day though and have a wonderful week as well.
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What's the most meetings you went to in a row, without missing any?
by JH inlets put it at 3 meetings a week.. my record is about 12 meetings in a row without missing.. normally, i'd miss 1 meeting per 2 weeks, in my best days..
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avidbiblereader
Physically or mentally? I went to too many physically but I like the scripture where it says "love does not keep account of the injury" I prefer not to count it would be unloving on my part!!!
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Appreciating true spiritual freedom - a word to our newbies!
by diamondblue1974 ini remember my feelings of bewilderment when i first read through threads on jwd back in february 2005; by then i had been an exjw for over a decade.
i must have been at my pc for two days solid while i just read and read.
it was impossible to take everything in, but i couldnt stop reading and couldnt stop taking in all the information this site contained.. i remember the initial fear i felt too, like reading about other's experiences was an act of rebellion or evil.
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avidbiblereader
esw1966 I know exactly what you mean, I love your post when you said
LOVE my new Christian Freedom!!! I LOVE having Christ in my life and NOT the wts!!!
Likewise I feel the freedom of what the Bible says, you were called to freedom. I would have to say that as a witness it was the most enslaving thing I ever done. I now have a personal relationship with Jah and Christ. I know love, joy, peace and the fruitages of the HS like never before. It is truly remarkable. I feel like the first time in my whole life like I know that I have a sure future and I now know the God of the Bible as never before. I may be a newbie on the site and it is wonderful to post and read everyones viewpoints and exp online, but I have felt this freedom for the last 4-6 years. I thank God daily for what he has provided since being booted through the WT uprights.
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I just need to say anything
by spiceant inlast thursday i left a mail at the mailbox of the co of the cong i atleast untill now still attend.
the mail concerned the child abuse issue, quoted the nytimes article alleging 24k recorded abusers, child abuse policy & some other things child abuse things that elude my mind.
today at the weekly watchtower brainwashing.
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avidbiblereader
Jesus said by their fruits you would recognize them, it is becoming more and more evident that they are what Paul said in 2 cor 11:13-15
13 These people are false apostles. They are deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no wonder that his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve.
Yes they can give a good talk on love but showing it is another issue for them, many of them wouldn't know love if it fell from heaven and hit them in the head. Flee from her is what John said