were you one of those witnesses that believed anything good that happened was because jehovah god was blessing you and when something bad happened, it was evidence of "no blessings"??
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It's funny how they actually make God look so fickle
You are right Mini, they and people are still believing what THEY say about Jehovah, YHWH, God or Christ instead of finding out themselves. Maybe we and people in general are more likely to have a nose ring than what they like to think.
Respectfully,abr
hold on, i accidentally sent it too early.
edited again to add: meh, nevermind.
this was going to be a big long rant about how pathetic the "all scriptures inspired" book is.
Yes they wrote that book and many others and as Solomn put it well, to the writing of many books there is no end but the bottom line is fear God and keep His commandments.
That Book may be man written but still the scripture applies In 2 Tim 3:16 and 17
Yes, the scriptures are inspired and benefical, and that is where it stops, with God's Word, sad we all fell into the snare of reading man made lit more than we should have and really at all.
abr
this verse came up on the thread about whether or not jesus is michael the archangel.
i wanted to discuss it in further detail on a new thread because i think raised on the other thread was an important point about how jw's and bs translate john 1:1.
1in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god.. as we know the nwt adds an "a" to say "and the word was (a) god, when there is no support for this in the ancient greek manuscripts.
Lovelylil, thank you and I too absolutely enjoy discussing the scriptures for upbuilding and not for arguing or trying to exonerate myself, it is refreshing to talk to others about the Bible. I would enjoy PMing each other on Biblical thoughts for the purpose of "sharpening oneself"
And if anyone says they can fully understand and translate the entire bible, they are either lying or misleading themselves.
The kingdom belongs to those who are childlike and you are right on with your view. Arrogant people or self serving like to portray themselves as all knowing, that should be our first sign that they are not like Christ who had no problem saying he didn't understand everything and was more than willing to submit to his Father in every way.
Thanks for your input. I also find these discussions refreshing, especially if they remain civil and open minded. I really do like to get others views on scripture. You will find that although I can "debate" fairly fiercly sometimes, I am still very open minded and believe I could very well be wrong. In the end our Bible interpretation only matters to ourselves anyway. I am sure you will agree that love and mercy are more important than bible "head" knowlege. So, thanks again. Peace, Lilly
Again you hit the nail on the head, cant add to that, well put,
abr
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
In a nut shell, it comes down to faith which is the center of Christianity and very appropriate Christ questioned before leaving the earth in
Luke 18:8 8 I tell you, he will grant justice to them quickly! But when the Son of Manreturns, how many will he find on the earth who have faith?”
To those with faith= It means everything
To those without faith=Nothing.
abr
this verse came up on the thread about whether or not jesus is michael the archangel.
i wanted to discuss it in further detail on a new thread because i think raised on the other thread was an important point about how jw's and bs translate john 1:1.
1in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god.. as we know the nwt adds an "a" to say "and the word was (a) god, when there is no support for this in the ancient greek manuscripts.
LL, thanks for an interesting thread about the Bible, it is refreshing!
As far as the thought of "a" or not in John 1:1 is of little importance one way or another, Bible translators for whatever their reasons or integrity is not for me to discuss or judge their motive. I think it a shame (for me) within the confines of Christianity to get caught up as I did as a witness for 22 years of trying to say "I am right", "I have the truth".
I now prefer to stick to a much simpler form of Christianity, trying to stay focused on the things "to me" that are undisputable, there is a God, He gave His Son, try to live with the Holy Spirit directing my thinking, actions, conduct, motives and attitude, realizing I am imperfect and I need the sacrifice of His Son to cleanse me in His eyes and standards and have complete faith in that ransom. Whether I am right or not on doctinal matters is not of importance to me anymore. I try to stay more on the leadings of the Holy Spirit in my belief (which is centered and Only on the Bible and not man made writings) and conduct and realize that none of us have the whole picture anymore than the Bible writers as Paul said in Romans 3:4-18.---NONE OF US!!!!!!!!!!!
We are all wrong on certain things and have to wait on God to reveal the whole picture to us, it is not important to His Glorification or our Salvation. I dont think anyone or organization has it completely right and many have lost focus or attention to the more important issues.
God deserves to be praised no matter our outcome, faith in Him and His Son is utmost importance, live a life that is worthy or believing He knows best and doing it because of Love of God and not Fear. This life is transitory, our accomplishments, our careers mean very little unless we feel and believe that we have God's favor with our loved ones through His provisions of His Son who died for us. These to "me' are the important things, I now try to live my life as Christ said, "if your eye is SIMPLE your whole body will be bright" Christianity from its founder was always simple, it is man who has made it complicated with an ulteria motive. Christ never was concerned about himself or whether he was right, it was all about His Father and the praise that He deserved.
When it comes down to it, we as humans mean very little in the whole sceme of things. The scripture says that "all of mankind are no more than an exhulation to God" or "dust on the scales".
With respect and peace,abr
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
What I type is what I feel/believe. No apologies.
DIDO.
abr
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
Maybe as the Gatorade commerical says
"Everyone wants to be like Mike"
2 Coe 11:13,14 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Mimmiacing(?) God is nothing new!
abr
growing up my mother always told us "jehovah will provide.
" we didn't have a car, we pioneered and did our best.
when i left school i pioneered full time with my mother and sister, we were a single parent family living on government benefits.
James 1:27 27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
So what does this tell us? If this looking after widows and orphans is pure and acceptable to Him, then not doing it is----What? Yes it is that easy to identify!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
abr
it's mine, mine, mine!!
mine i tell you!
(that would be jehovah, in case you're interested.).
I never doubted the scripture, I knew it was there, just a HUGE problem with men and religion misapplying it for their greedy gain. We should not apply to God what men misquote.
People equate God with the WTBS, the two are totally different unless we subconsciencely or directly believe that they are God's organization????????????
Respectfully,abr
i was wondering why da or df jw no longer believe in god when they make up their mind to no longer attend a meeting.
first off let's not say that all of us become athiest when leaving.
many on this board believe in god.
I trust that He in His wisdom chose not to reveal that for a very specific and benevolent reason.
If we knew when, we wouldn't be able to function, His day in court will happen soon enough.
Keep the faith, so many have lost it!
Your brother in Christ,abr
