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even though i didnt have the title of elder, i was still active in my work at bethel and the congregation used me as much as possible.
when the congregation recommended that i once again serve as an elder, one elder raised the objection that that barbara was a low-hour publisher.
this place has alot of stinkin rules. ah but gratefull DNCall does not run on and on. My elderly eyes cannot bear up to long winded stories. What was that place we used to post back in the day before JWD? Those people would write on and on, stories, pg after pg. I would beg - make it Stop! So yes rules have their place.
itmt: everybody scoot on over to Freeminds, meet ya there.
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even though i didnt have the title of elder, i was still active in my work at bethel and the congregation used me as much as possible.
when the congregation recommended that i once again serve as an elder, one elder raised the objection that that barbara was a low-hour publisher.
Hi Frank, I just got word of your posting. Well congratulations and THANK YOU for your courage and kindness in telling us your story. Writing it out may be cathartic for you and most assuring for the rest of us. I had never known anything outside the WTBS but at about 50yrs of age I had had enough and finally Got the Heck OUT! Things such as 1975, family divisons over DFing and the lack of love from HQ just did not add up to The Only True Religion.
I became aquinted with you and your father during the late 1960's as a convention orchestra member wanna be. You and your fellow musicans were our rock stars for those summer conventions. There really was an aura of creativity and love that came from that group. After all, they were not paid a dime, you gave us beautiful music purely out of the love of the craft. Even though the songs may have been altered for the song book, the arrangements we heard live were Amazing. You are so correct, those summer assemblies were Events we looked forward to all year. As a creative more than an intellectual person I could relate to the music more than the 'talks' I get chills now thinking of those big drums and all the horns. At the time I was told it was all about Jah's spirit. Now I realise it was The Sound. The big sound of a full orchestra is a moving event. These days our local Symphony moves me.
I hope to see you and Barbara when I visit SoCal soon. For now Thank You Again and Keep Playing. Nobody can take away the music.
in elementary school, the teachers would allow parents to bring in brownies/cake/cupcakes/ice cream to celebrate a studen'ts birthday.. and you were supposed to leave.
or tell the teacher that you would not be partaking of pagan desserts.. but.
did you actually leave?.
I had a liberal JW mom and she said 'just don't make a big deal out of it, eat the cupcake but don't sing the song' Never left the room so didn't get to know the library lady very well. My kids however, oh I was a stickler, sooo sorry, my bad, they had a close relationship with library lady and did become very good readers, all.
Hi there LD, I don't get back here very often these days but this is an interesting poll so I will give it a go.
Hubby and I faded about 7yrs ago, wish I had kept a diary of dates. My kids do not post here but I thought I just throw them in for good measure. 1 DF, 2 faded. And 1 is an elder and also very close and understanding of our position. By his request we just don't talk religion and we all get along splendidly.
We still get a few 'encouragement calls' and have a few friends that have 'come out' to us that they doubt it all but hang on because of the social culture.
Nice to see you here, say hi to Mrs LD
Your Friend tinker
a friend of mine is travelling from san francisco to las vegas next march and is looking for a great place to stay en-route for a night.
where would you suggest?
they were considering yosemite but the road in will be closed when they are travelling.
I'm not sure of the route but if they could take the coast south, WOW, many many wonderful, Places You Must See before you die! San Simion, Hearst Castle area is wonderful. I have staying in many little motels in and around there. Big Sur - OMG everyone must see. Just encourage them to drive the coast at least some before they cut inland. Most of the seaside motels are fine and cozy.
Bakersfield = Good food ??? not so much, eek!
here is a pic of st. paul....what is this thing on his head?.
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btw, it comes from this website: http://www.dioceseofscranton.org/ecumenism/ecumenismhomepage.asp.
LOL Leo, my exact thought when I looked at the pic. Nice to know a smart girl like you has such a good sense of humor, rock on.
sorry don't mean to highjack this thread, please ignore and carry on people.
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just heard this from a friend of mine ((he doesn't know i feel the way i do about wbts)) out in the seattle area.
the normal convention days of friday-sunday were originally announced way back in january, now due to the society getting an exceptional deal from the tacoma dome, they agreed to move the convention from thursday-saturday ((this was announced a couple of months ago)) so the jonas brothers could play their show on sunday.
Interesting, this is a first as far as I've experienced, almost 50yr in. We were assigned to Tacoma for many years until the last few I was in and then it was Kenniwick, Wa. I do remember one CA was detoured because of snow on the mountain pass. They quickly got a local high school gym and on went the show. We were bummed out for missing the 'canceled' opportunity...YEAH Free Weekend. NOT
But I don't think it is all that unusual for venues to have other programs between Jdub conventions. We did a number of take-down, put-ups over the years. Damm hard work when the bean counting Jdubs could have flexed their schedule
on may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.
he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.
Has the Launching Pad started it's countdown....10, 9, 8, 7.......
A young fellow, perfect example, wore a tie from the age of 2, gave first talk at 4, pioneer at 14, went to Bethel, back home married the perfect beautiful pioneer, parts on all assemblies and Big Conventions stated studing with inmates at the local jail. It came out a year later that he was having 'affairs' with these male students during the so called 'studies' He was DF'd, divoriced and back in within a year. No longer any title but I still see him 'out in service' from time to time...... They are all NF's.
hey all,.
i have noticed many of the elders in my hall are now calling the wtbs "mother" from the stage during their talks now.
it happens at least once per meeting.
I heard it on and off over 50yrs I was a dub. Usually from someone closely connected to NY HQ. My mom was a liberal Jdub and always rolled her eyes at the careless euphemism use. One old timer, former CO and Grand Poobah around here took me aside one time when I questioned some insturction in a letter from NY. He pointed his finger at me and said, 'we Do Not question MOTHER"
