Posts by tinker

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Nothing like a JW memorial service...

by Princess Daisy Boo in

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tinker

Offering my condolences Princess. Like you I have moved on and do not come here very often. But on occation I need to vent or read others comments so I don't feel so all alone. Just a few weeks ago my MIL called to let us know they would no longer be associating with us. She had been holding out hope that we would return to the "meetings" but now she has to take a "stand" in hopes that we would come to our senses. AS IF!

My hushand and I are heartsick because we love them but this new "stand" changes things. After some long talks John has concluded that he will not attend their memorial services when that time comes. They are elderly and could Go any time so we are ready. He is an only child and no other close family in so paying respect won't be such an issue. Their congo is their family and they have all shunned us for years. He will write an Obit to submit to the local newpaper because that will be the only way to eulogies his parents.

Designs is so Right On, JW memorials are one long Infomercial and we are not buying it any longer.

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WERE THERE ANY UNOFFICIAL STRANGE IDEAS IN YOUR CONGREGATION?

by badboy in

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any takers?

tinker

We live in an area with many wineries so sometimes after service on a Sat afternoon we would go wine tasting. Soon there was a "local needs" talk stating that the purpose of wine tasting was to get drunk and so such activity would be wrong. We didn't stop wine tasting we just did it on the qt. And wearing denim skirts was a no no.

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How the Shrinking of the Awake! has Affected Many!

by God_Delusion in

the watchtower society never thinks things through.

the halving of the awake!

magazine has had an adverse affect on many.. http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/awake-bloopers/awake-magazine-cut-to-16-pages/.

tinker

I know one Jdub that read it cover to cover. She often declared she had the equivalance of a college education from reading the Awake for over 30yrs. :-/

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Thinking, Fast and Slow

by DNCall in

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tinker

Fascinating stuff DNCall. Thank goodness we pulled that trigger.

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Did anyone find the movie The Grey slightly offensive?

by Chemical Emotions in

its portrayal of grey wolves was horribly inaccurate.

it will probably lead to an even more negative attitude toward wolves, which puts them in more danger.

i believe i read that the creators bought dead wolves while producing the movie.. its main characters' philosophizing was pretentious, cliched, and insulting to my intelligence.

tinker

A really great movie about wolves is from 1983 "Never Cry Wolf" One of my all time favorites.

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R&F Rumblings

by biometrics in

so i had a good conversation wth my brother, who i thought was a devout jw.

he eventually asked "are you going to the meetings?

", i said "no" then he said "why not, you know we're near the end".

tinker

When we left many of our closest friends tried to 'encourage' us back while at the same time admitted their own doubts and misgivings. Some came straight out and said they did not believe any of it but it was a good clean life and where else can you go. I have come to understand it is a culture and like it or not you are part of it and it's just too hard to leave. So they continue to 'go to meeting, D2D, assemblies and conventions and Shun me.

Also there is some degree of power for the men and the women have a pecking order. You can climb the ladder and gain importance even if you are a window washer by trade. Wear a white collar even if at your secular job you are low on the totom pole.

And it's really pretty easy to be a Jdub, I mean where can you go and get away without ever buying a Christmas or Bday gift for anyone. Everyone 'in the World' is evil and only you are worthy. It all about arrogant supremacy.

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WT Indulging In Nostalgia, Soliciting Memorabilia; What's Up?

by Room 215 in

you may have notice in a recent kool-aid watchtower, the announcement of its creation at headquarters of an archive of photos, objects, memorabilia, etc.

i noticed that the lavishly upgraded assembly hall in buckingham, pa. now display in the lobby, glass cases with all sort of such objects.

it wasn't long ago when they disparaged nostalgia as the preoccupation of spritually bankrupted wordlings who, bereft of any hope for the future, pitiably cling to memories of the "good old days"..... what's up with jehovah's "forward looking" people??

tinker

Years ago when my congo was remodeling the KH, I was asked to help 'decorate' the library/2nd school/back room. We had a lot of old timers and I thought why not display some of their memorabilia. I collected old pioneer cards, pictures of the sound car, the oversized old WT, even a old lapel pin with the cross. I made up a collage of these items and had them framed in a shadow box. Everyone including elders thought is was great to have a sort of mini JW museum of our own. Uh Oh....along came the CO and without a word to me it was taken down and never seen again. When I asked about it I was given a stern look of "it is not you place to ask questions" I never got an explaination but I certainly learned more Truth about the Troof.

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What did your personal big AHA moments look like when you saw through a LIE or suddenly understood a TRUTH?

by Fernando in

"what is an aha moment?

it's a moment of clarity, a defining moment where you gain real wisdom - wisdom you can use to change your life.".

(from a financial services company - http://www.ahamoment.com/what-is).

tinker

Getting past the LIE is very difficult and painful but there is another AHA momnet that is delightful. It is when you discover that Worldly People can be nice and good and you can develope friendships with them. It did take a few years to process the grief and move on to a new life but I have done it. I had always been interested in the art of Bonsai but never had the time and others would tell me 'you can have that hobby in the New World' HA! So I joined a local group of the brightest and nicest people ever. The WT world is small in number and mindset. Outside there are non-judgemental people who are interesting and intelegent, kind and thoughtful. I encourage anyone who is feeling lost and alone to get out and join a club or volunteer in something you are interested in. Librarys, hospital, park or community gardens draw cool people and possible new friendships.

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Question for you atheists...

by MrFreeze in

or agnostics too.

are you open about your beliefs (or lack thereof i should say)?

when people talk about anything religious, do you mention that you don't believe in god?

tinker

nts: between beliefs right now = perfectly explains where I comfortably sit if anyone is asking Thanks Puff

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Talk 36-Is this life all there is... Does anyone have it?

by jamir in

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hello,.

does anyone here have the talk "36 - is this life all there is", in audio format, that could share / send me?.

i'll have to do it next month, and not in the mood / dont want to spend time with this.... .

tinker

Can't help with any talks but could suggest you expose yourself to the Flu or come down with a terrible case of hoof and mouth disease. ANYTHING to get out of teaching the public the WT LIES. My heart goes out to you for the position you are in re your family relationships. Ask yourself what is more hypocritical pretending to be sick or going on pretending to believe.