Posts by erandir

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When a DFed anointed one get reinstated..............what happens ??????

by vitty in

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i have just found out that an appointed member of a congregation i know has been dfed for drinking, this person has had a problem for years but her daughter dobbed her in................anyway i was wondering what happens if she gets reinstated, will she still be one of the anointed or has she lost her crown.

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erandir

Or the whole thing is crap and the WT made it up.

I'm going to go with the last answer.

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WTF are they even out in service for?

by mkr32208 in

hey hey!

been a while since i've started a topic.

i've been gone for a long time and just check in from time to time but i had to comment on this.. .

erandir

We used to call that the "cute factor." It works up until about late teen years.

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WTF are they even out in service for?

by mkr32208 in

hey hey!

been a while since i've started a topic.

i've been gone for a long time and just check in from time to time but i had to comment on this.. .

erandir

Or, maybe there could be a nuclear war or a meteor hit on the Earth that could exterminate everyone.

According to the Mayan calendar, I think 2012 is the end of the world as we know it. Then there is that asteroid that, if it passes earth inside a very narrow window in 2012, it will swing back around and hit the earth in a very ugly way. So, maybe the WTS has something after all. All they have to do is pay attention to the news and then ~~fabricate~~interpret scripture in a way that fits with it.

But also, staying on topic here...I think the plague of apathy in the United States that the WT mentions from time to time not only comes from the householders but also permeates the congregations in this country. In spite of being counseled to go to the doors in pairs, we would go individually, and a lot of us would only knock lightly (some just pretend to knock) and hope no one answered.

I know that in my old congregation, the zealous witness who actually talked to people they saw outside was the exception and not the rule. In whatever car groups I would be in, if we pulled up to a house and the householder was outside or in the garage, we practically drew straws to decide who would talk to him, no matter whose turn it was to take the door. Maybe that lack of courage meant that subliminally we had a problem with what we were doing, preaching door-to-door.

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WTF are they even out in service for?

by mkr32208 in

hey hey!

been a while since i've started a topic.

i've been gone for a long time and just check in from time to time but i had to comment on this.. .

erandir

Which insinuates that Armageddon is coming in 2007. Of course, we know that this is likely to be another bust.

WTWizard, what do you mean by "likely?" I would have used the word "definitely." Surely, you don't believe in that b.s. any longer?

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Have You Ever Met A "Celebrity" or Actually See One Face To Face?

by minimus in

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while i was in new york i walked by two men and one looked like the comedian jackie mason whom i adore.

i looked at him and said, "i just wanted to say how much i enjoy your shows.

i've seen you perform a number of times".

erandir

Yeah...I saw Anthony Quinn at the Dallas airport in passing on one of those little passenger shuttle cars they use in the airport. That was back in 2000 or 2001...shortly before he died. Coincidentally, he's from the same state as my father-in-law: Chihuahua, Mexico.

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Some outrageous counsel I received once ...

by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

i was reading an earlier thread about ridiculous counsel and i just had to share this one with everyone.. you know how sometimes around christmas time merchandisers would package their products in a more "festive" wrapper?

the largest bread company here does that every year.

well one yuletide season (when i was about 7 years old), i was helping myself to a couple slices of bread and my aunt saw me.

erandir

another time it was because I went shopping with my bible student, bad association apparently as she wasnt a witness(YET) suffice to say after that she never became one thank god.

I heard that in a congregation in New England (from someone who lived there for a time and saw it firsthand), there were some publishers who regularly took their bible students shopping and even counted the time on the report because they occassionally talked about bible topics during the trips. Not exactly outrageous counsel, but outrageous nevertheless.

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What exactly does it mean to be "marked", anyway?

by Amber Rose in

what are the concequences of being marked?

what qualifies a person to be marked?

who determines whom shall be marked?

erandir

It all makes sense to me now. We (my wife and I) were brought into the "truth" a few years ago, and so this concept of being marked never really made sense. And, we never really paid attention to it. We used to have a good friend (she and her husband studied with us--i.e., we were counted as their bible studies) who is the daughter of an elder. She would feel the need to let us know about certain ones in the congregation who were not good to be associated with outside of field service and meetings. She warned us about a good many people...some of which later became good friends of ours. We ended up regretting that we paid attention to our "friend's" warning about them.

Recently, we turned the tables on her and told her that we thought she wasn't a very good friend or witness because of all the slandering of other people that she had done over the years. We ended our friendship right then and there after years of putting up with this pattern of slander, gossip, and back-biting.

So, basically, if my understanding of this "marking" is correct, she was actually doing the congregation a favor and behaving as a good witness. She was marking others, passing on information from her father the elder, and protecting her new studies from bad influences.

That is just TWISTED and SICK, in my opinion. Yet another reason I'm glad I am leaving.

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"Cut Off" Orchestra?

by brinjen in

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i was watching a tv show last week called 'the chaser's war on everything".

for those who don't live in australia it's a political satire program.

one of their sketches was award ceremonies such as the oscars & the orchestra that cuts off the long and boring acceptance speeches.

erandir

oh yeah...i remember that episode too...i lmao on that one.

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Attention former elders and ms: I have a question.

by R.F. in

i'm currently a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation.

i want to begin my fade soon.

i'm going to get off the pioneer list first instead of quitting both positions at once, hopefully to ease potential gossip.

erandir

The thing about doing the "fade" is that it is extremely difficult to pull off unless you are able to move far away and never attend a new congregation. If your family are JWs who live in the same area as you, then I would say that doing the fade is almost impossible, as has been the case with me. I tried to fade, but it has become totally obvious to my JW family.

I've been doing the fade, apparently, for about 2 years now. I have 3 major excuses that have kept things quiet for me. I had clinical depression. I was stumbled by 2 elders and also by my previous employers who are a family of witnesses (I seriously do not recommend working for witnesses! But that's another topic.), and that was the focus of a sheparding call at one time. And I had to take a job working nights which basically keeps me from the meetings during the week. I don't attend Sundays, and I've skipped the last memorial and the special assembly day.

I was not raised in the "truth", none of my family is in it. I studied for a year and was baptised less than a decade ago along with my wife (same for her as well). (I'm being vague with dates here for a reason.) My wife is still active and in good standing and does her best to tell the elders to leave me alone and that I'll talk when I'm ready.

So it's been relatively easy for me to keep my distance, and yet there are a few families who still invite us over for social things. I'm awaiting a call or visit from a couple elders soon, though. This all seems too good to be true.

I guess that in my case, I didn't have to move to another congregation. My wife seems to think no one will push the issue as long as I lie low and keep out of trouble. :)

I hope that experience helps somewhat in your decision, R.F.

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If the Watchtower ceased to exist right now, what would this mean for you?

by JH in

what would it change in your life right now if the watchtower fell apart and didn't exist anymore?.

maybe some would want to join another realigion right away, because they still believed a bit of what they preached and didn't want to join a false religion, just as the jw's brand all other religions..... .

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erandir

I would have tremendous peace of mind. I would have a celebration with my like-minded friends and even make the day of the fall an annual observance. I would resist the urge to say "I told you so" to all the rest. I would feel happy that millions of reems of paper weren't going to waste.