I personally love make up. After an argument, it's the best thing to do. Part of that, of course, is make up sex. Btw, I just read the subject and none of the posts...hope I am answering correctly here.
erandir
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Make up: Love it or loathe it?
by Crumpet ini have just gotten around to taking off last nights trowelling and what a relief that is!
i rarely wear make up - maybe once a month, so i probably go over board.
i feel like my skin just suffocated for 24 hrs.. what do you love or loathe about make up?
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Sci-fi fans or not? Speak Klingon? Or are you a face hugger?
by Crumpet init occurred to me during my meanderings through london last night that invariably boyfriends describe me in the context of science fiction.
i like geeky guys a lot so that is to be expected.
but moving on to the dubious similarities - the first called me a a face hugger - nice, unless you have watched aliens in which case you will know what a face hugger is.
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erandir
Serenity is awesome...why'd they have to go and cancel that Firefly series, anyway. I mean...sci-fi plus western. Best of both worlds. *sigh*
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Crumpet, there are more of us out there than you know. :)
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I want a hut and a rock for a washing board. Mrs. Grizzly Adams...
by Sparkplug inso to top off my wonderful set of horrible happenings as of late...my washer was broke.
so after a couple of weeks i put off going down the street and borrowing an unused one from a friends garage.
i was told it was buried and hard to get out, so i took a bit of time tackling the job.
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erandir
Mother of a goat sucker.
Ah HA! Yet another Chupacabra sighting! I knew it existed! I knew it!
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Secret book--PDF--(Family Care and Medical Management for JW's!)
by Atlantis in1992 family care and medical management for jehovah's witnesses.
(approx.
85mb) this publication is now unavailable from the watchtower, with no plans for republication.
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erandir
Coolness...thanks for the info. I'm adding it to my collection.
Does anyone know how to get ahold of the Pay Attention to the Flock book? I know I downloaded it once, but can't find it on my PC anymore.
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How many EX-JWS?
by Tatiana ini read somewhere on the pbs site that someone (can't remember who) said there could be millions of ex-jws.
is there any possible way to confirm just how many of us there are?
even a ballpark guess?
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erandir
We'd need to form our own organization and then start hounding our members to report in and give us accurate numbers. Then we'd need to keep tabs on those who have leanings toward becoming a witness again.
It would be like a bizarro world version of the WTS.
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How many EX-JWS?
by Tatiana ini read somewhere on the pbs site that someone (can't remember who) said there could be millions of ex-jws.
is there any possible way to confirm just how many of us there are?
even a ballpark guess?
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erandir
We'll need categories:
DF'd
DA'd
Fading
Faded
Infiltrated-and-wreaking-havoc-but-not-a-JW-in-the-heart
Studied, but decided to run like hell
Studied, unbaptised publisher, but fled the borg
Raised in truth--never baptised
Any that I'm missing here?
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Sci-fi fans or not? Speak Klingon? Or are you a face hugger?
by Crumpet init occurred to me during my meanderings through london last night that invariably boyfriends describe me in the context of science fiction.
i like geeky guys a lot so that is to be expected.
but moving on to the dubious similarities - the first called me a a face hugger - nice, unless you have watched aliens in which case you will know what a face hugger is.
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erandir
Now, you speaka my language...sci-fi
I've been called Spock a lot because of my way of coldly analyzing a situation and also because I surprise people a lot with being able to retain a lot of useless knowledge in my head and giving it out when it is needed.
I so badly want to go to a sci-fi convention...haven't yet because I don't know any big fans that would go to any (don't know enough geeks, I guess). I love star wars and star trek. I've read more books on both series more than I can count. I think I know Tolkien (not quite sci-fi...but still geeky) better than the bible and the wt literature. :) How many times have I read the bible through? Once...How many times have I read the Lord of the Rings? 7 times. The Silmarrilion? 3 times. Anything I could find with Tolkien's name on it...at least once. There are at least 25 books in my personal library of Star Trek and Star Wars, and I've read them at least two times. One of them is the tech manual for Star Trek.
Speak Klingon? Maybe one day...I can say "to be or not to be" in Klingon. But first things first...I am trying to speak Spanish fluently, and I feel that mixing another language in there might hurt it...especially a fictional one.
I see myself as Luke...struggling with the dark side...seeing the good in others...even in Emperor Palpatine-like elders who would rather bake you like a potato with their lightning bolts than treat you lovingly...but ultimately, I want to be a good guy (and learn how to light saber duel...cuz it's just cool to wave around a neon-colored blade).
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Why do people hide on this site?
by Adolfius insomething i've noticed when reading the various threads on this site, is that so many people seem to be afraid.
their scared of being disfellowshipped, scared of being shunned, scared of not being accepted by the congregation, scared that people may find out they don't believe anymore, scared if anyone was to find out they use this site.
there is advice for people on how to avoid being disfellowshipped, if they may have "said too much" about their thoughts, or how to fade without being noticed.. i don't understand this.
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erandir
here's my two-cents.
A lot of it is that the organization does manage to have control over its people. I don't know exactly how this is, but I still feel it and fight it from time to time. They have a way of turning your family against you...in my case, my wife. I know she is strong-minded and won't let them do it, but still...if she continues going to meetings, some of it will rub off on her. She's there because a lot of what is taught is better to her than any other church she knows and because a lot of the friends are really good people (albeit misguided, imo), and she doesn't want to be cut off from the enjoyable socialization that she has. If I were to DA myself or be DF'ed, they would shun both of us because they felt they had to...or at the least, just me. But her social life would still go down the tube. She's talked of committing suicide if anything like that happens. She's going through depression right now...I coincidentally am coming out of mine. (I'm convinced a lot of it had to do with being a witness.) She's 1500 miles from her family, so the only friends and "family" she has is here. And to take that away would be cruel on my part...hence the hiding. She doesn't have much in common with my family, who live close-by. And she has maybe two or three worldly friends from work that she plays tennis with or goes to lunch with once in a blue moon. She keeps her distance largely because that's what a good witness should do. I'm sure she'd do fine if she decided to leave the witnesses, but she doesn't see it yet.
In summary, it's so complicated. Whether the society makes it that way to keep its subjects in line or not, I cannot tell you because I don't really know. But for a non-confrontational person like myself who has a socialite spouse who still believes and doesn't want to go from dozens of friends down to 2 overnight and who isn't ready to question her beliefs...hiding is a good option. It's temporary until we can grow some balls and learn how to deal with it all, I know, but it's good enough for now. It would be inconsiderate on my part to make a decision that would negatively affect the happiness of another person, especially my wife.
Another reason I just thought of right now is that it is kind of a procrastination of the inevitable. Maybe it is also a test of the local elders...to see how bent on DF'ing they are, or if they are loving and understanding. So far, I've been left alone, and it's been a long time since I last attended anything...even after skipping the memorial this year...and the special assembly day.
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Where do you think you would be now?
by brinjen injust a thought, wondering where does everyone think they would be right now if they hadn't found the truth?
i mean the real truth, not the wts.
would you be single?
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erandir
I'll play along with this thought game:
I wasn't doing too bad for a new recruit. I was aux pioneering once or twice a year and getting at least 10 hours in each month. I was learning to overcome objections at the door and to use a scripture and leave on a positive note. Also, I was being used (taken advantage of) a lot at the hall and was good at following through on my assignments in the school. I was just starting to make the break-through from relying heavily on notes to being able to just use an outline and speak in my own words. I was offered to do impromtu talks (the last-minute talks when the brother assigned didn't show up). I was considered to be a good reader at the book study especially at pronouncing just like the society wanted (regardless of whether it was correct or not) all those old names and places. And I was taking the lead in field service and giving the prayers at the book study and field service meetings. They used me 4 years in a row to pass the "emblems" in the front row and up to the stage during memorials. I think I would have been a m.s. by now and probably aux pioneering all the time...or another path could likely have been moving to a spanish congregation and doing the same there...ms and aux pioneer.
But this is a silly question to me because the real truth is so blatantly obvious that eventually it would have reached me. I know I overlooked it for years, but it eventually got through to me...combined with my own observations.
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What is your favorite DUB catch phrases (sayings,) ?
by PinTail inthese are just a few: how about this one, brothers the time left is reduced", do not take liberties with the sisters", charley calls", brothers and sister do not mark on the sides of your bibles", do you have secret sins", do not be saving seats", you will not be used if you wear a beard," parents are your children setting with you", are you buying out the oppertune time for your selfs", only use the motels the society wants you to use", and on and on like cults do.
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erandir
does this count? when they spontaneously burst into "illustration" to try to prove a point. A lot of the time, the analogy is inappropriate or misapplied. It's really funny when this happens. Like a little kid trying to imitate his parent. Oh, crap! I just made an illustration. Little kid=dub publisher, parent=WT "master" writers. (Oy vey...i was so brainwashed...i still think like a dub...get out of my head!!!)
my least favorite one is the analogy to explain the "ransom" from the Draw Close to Jehovah book, chapter 14:
To illustrate: Imagine that you live in a town where most of the residents are employed at a large factory. You and your neighbors are well paid for your labors and lead comfortable lives. That is, until the day the factory closes its doors. The reason? The factory manager turned corrupt, forcing the business into bankruptcy. Suddenly out of work, you and your neighbors are unable to pay the bills. Marriage mates, children, and creditors suffer because of that one man’s corruption. Is there a way out? Yes! A wealthy benefactor decides to intervene. He appreciates the value of the company. He also feels for its many employees and their families. So he arranges to pay off the company’s debt and reopen the factory. The cancellation of that one debt brings relief to the many employees and their families and to the creditors. Similarly, the cancellation of Adam’s debt benefits untold millions.