Hi Big Jim,
I can understand why it would be tempting for you and others
to come to this conclusion. Everyone has to justify their
views on an issue. Naturally, God too would understand this
temptation.
Emyrose
it is an insult to god to believe in god.
for on the one hand it is to suppose that he has perpetrated acts of incalculable cruelty.
on the other hand, it is to suppose that he has perversely given his human creatures an instrument -- their intellect -- which must inevitably lead them, if they are dispassionate and honest, to deny his existence.
Hi Big Jim,
I can understand why it would be tempting for you and others
to come to this conclusion. Everyone has to justify their
views on an issue. Naturally, God too would understand this
temptation.
Emyrose
several folks asked to hear my story, so here goes - i hope you don't fall asleep!!
it's a story that's been told many, many times - i was pretty much raised as a jehovahs witness (my mom was baptized when i was 6 years old), and i simply followed along and accepted for years what i was being told.
going through school, i just learned to be different (which, in some ways, is a good thing... im hoping that will make it easier to break free).
hi poohbear,
Hang in there poohbear, you will come out of this nightmare if you keep focusing on the solutions that exist. Think about the progress
you have already made to break free from that cult. A somewhat normal
life for you and your children awaits you out here in the real world. You still have a chance to find happiness in life. Many here too have been devastated
by the WTBTS and life's circumtances in general. Most are very supportive and can offer you lifesaving advice. So feel free to ask
for support. I did and got great, effective advice.
Thanks, Emyrose
PS, thankyou for telling your story
"disfellowshipping does not sever family ties.".
or so claims the watchtower's official faq.
so, i would like to take an informal poll: how has being disfellowshippid/ disassociated/ inactive/ just having doubts affected relations with your family?
Hi Tergiversater,
Only my older sister and myself were JWs in my family. I left first.
When I unofficially disassociated myself from the organization
I called my sister who was living in a different state and didn't really get into a deep discussion about why I was leaving. Afterwards, She continued to called me and speak to me as usual. When I would visit
her she would keep the fact that I was inactive from her congregation.
I attended some meetings with her with no problem. My relationship
with her didn't really suffer at all. Perhaps the fact that she was
attending college for her second degree had something to do with her
reaction to my disassociation. Maybe a college education makes for a more tolerant reaction and less mind control. She left the org. two years after I did.
Thanks,
Emyrose
i have been lurking around here for quite some time now, posted a few short replies, and engaged in a little chat from time to time.
its almost hard to remember, just a few months back, feeling like i was the only one to live through a jw experience and not be sorry that i am no longer a part of it.
i am very happy to have found this site.. i would like to better introduce myself as i have seen several others do.. i was born in '78 to a fanatical jw mother and an unbelieving alcholic father.
hi Heff,
You are still very young and have the rest of your life ahead of you. Many here have also had a pretty tough life. Keep reading about how
they have managed to stay alive and find some happiness in life. This
forum is really a great place to witness the beauty of the human spirit thrive in the face of all sorts of deaths. I hope you can find
it in your heart to forgive your mom and build a loving relationship
w/ her, even if she fails to help you.
Emyrose
i was raised as a catholic.
it used to be considered a sin to eat meat on friday.
even for a little boy who was at the age of reason.. i remember very well the time when i was in the second grade about the age of 7 that i did eat a hot dog on a friday.. i knew that it was a sin but i ate it anyway.
Hi Chester,
When I first picked up apostate literature, I remember thinking
that the WTBTS was being unfairly labeled as a cult. It was not
until four years after I left that I was able to admit that I
had indeed been a member of a cult. Even when I say it now it
hurts me tremendously. So reaching many of our brothers and sisters
who are still trapped under mind control is a delicate and sophisticated process. Part of it is telling your personal story,
and so I thank you for taking the time and having the courage to
tell us your story on this forum.
Emyrose
witnesses: "why, no sir.
witnesses: "well, actually sir if...".
witnesses: "ok sir, but may i just say something?".
Funny I never thought I was deceiving people when
out in field service? I doubt that the
average JW goes door to door w/ the intention of
conning or swindling folks. I honestly thought I
was aiding in saving people by bringing them into the truth.
When they approach me nowadays I kindly decline the literature
and feel compassion for them, because i know that they are
under mind control and wasting precious time living in a dream
world. I would never begin to abuse or hate them. Isn't that
what many accuse them of doing on this board? Why would we advocate such
poor and hateful behavior? Why? I find it quite disturbing to
see that it's that easy to instigate hatred for a group of people
we once were a part of and where some still have family members.
But I guess that's part of human nature.
And that's why leaders like Hitler will continue
rise in the future.
Emyrose
used to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.
i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.
the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.
Hi Waiting,
Thankyou for welcoming me, as many others have done too.
You, along with other wise and kind souls on this board
are the reason why I'm still here.
Hi everyone, here's a little something for you:
My psychiatrist told me I'm going crazy. I told him .... If you don't mind I'd like a second opinion. He said .... Alright.... you're ugly too! (Rodney Dangerfield)
Thanks, Emyrose
i'm an observant person.
i became that way back in what i call the 'wallflower years' of my life, when i could very easily blend into the woodwork of any room i walked into without anyone looking up.
i became a student of human nature and watched how people interacted, and that study has come in handy at many points.. sometimes, though, i don't realize when i'm opening a can of worms.
Hello Esmeralda,
Looks like you have outgrown this exp. and want
to move on w/ your life. I commend you for fighting
for the all the non-troll newbies. This quality of a
blend of sympathy and courage is something that you
need to focus on and fiercely grab hold of and then
let it keep defining who you are. Don't let go of it, ever.
I sincerely hope that your health improves and that you find happiness. It goes without saying that your talent for writing
will bring you much success and love in life. But, please don't ever
forget those who have opened their hearts and souls to you.
These people don't merit this. Maybe the ones that offended
you don't deserve your friendship, but the ones that loved
you do.
Wishing you a great and joyful life,
Emyrose
not as quickly as hippikon, mind you!
or danielle, who would have done it a week - easy!
she did 100 posts in one day!
Happy Master day, ISP!
i've been sitting here a little while lurking about and reading posts...and.
forcing myself not to post to several threads that i know would get me.
i have a comment that i have to make though, and i hope that.
Thanks Goo and Dark Clouds, but hmmmmmmm........
I going to need you help again, Waiting will slap me now, boo hoo
A diplomat is a man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never remembers her age.
(Robert Frost)
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. (Henny Youngman)
I just got skylights put in my place. The people who live above me are furious. (Steven Wright)
Emyrose,
PS, LOL Waiting