Geez, I sure hope not, im reading one of his books at this time.
Who really knows if he is going back to meetings ? Not me
Posts by sexyk
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49Ray Franz is going back to meetings? WTF!!!
by Crumpet inokay i am getting messages from gay exjw site message board that ray franz is back at meetings.
i cannot imagine this has a fragment of truth... has anyone heard about this?
can verify or otherwise?
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Elders/Former Elders.....a question about publisher records.
by R.F. ini would like to know just how many forms of identification does the congregation keep of who their members are?
is it just the publisher record card?
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sexyk
They probably spy into your windows at night. Seeing if your doing anything not worthy of the organization.
They know everything about you, really.
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Crisis of Conscience
by sexyk ini ordered crisis of conscience a few minutes ago !
i've heard many great things about this book for people who have left the jw religion and were having a hard time, like myself.
for those who read it, has it changed your life in any way ?
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sexyk
Im so happy right now, why ?
My order came in today, that's right, you guessed, the book.
Crisis of Conscience !
Hope to hear more about what people think of this book. I know i'll be posting about it a little more.
keith
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What Was Your Social Life Like As A Witness?
by minimus inmy (ex)wife and i asssociated with a few other couples and was considered "popular".
how was your social life?
did you have much of one?
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sexyk
My social life as a witness ? One word
Conditional
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Crisis of Conscience
by sexyk ini ordered crisis of conscience a few minutes ago !
i've heard many great things about this book for people who have left the jw religion and were having a hard time, like myself.
for those who read it, has it changed your life in any way ?
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sexyk
I Ordered Crisis of Conscience a few minutes ago ! It should be in around a week or 2 !
I've heard many great things about this book for people who have left the JW religion and were having a hard time, like myself.
For those who read it, has it changed your life in any way ? Personal thoughts please.
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Help
by sexyk innot sure where to begin with this paragraph, im just a little dazed & confused.
i was in the jw religion for 20 years of my life, baptized, almost ms, i recently left, i am 20 right now.
living with my girlfriend.
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sexyk
Thanks for the advice everyone, it's appreciated.
Im going to read that book Crisis of Conscience. I heard so many good things about it, im making it a goal to purchase one and read it.
keith
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missed 2 weeks worth of meetings...now how the hell do I get out?
by SnakesInTheTower inbear with me please.
a lot on my mind.
skip to the last couple of red paragraphs if you dont have time to read my ramblings.
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sexyk
Yet, I dont want to get D/A'd or D/F'd or be marked as bad association. I have close friends who say they will stick by me no matter what, but many who say they love me tell me that they would probably cave to the pressure if something like that happened
Well, it's time to face the facts !
Your going to be marked as bad association no matter what, if you leave. That's a for sure. You can't leave in an honourable way.
They would absolutely cave to the pressure if you quit going to meetings, yes, it doesn't matter how close they are to you, perhaps family can be an exception, if your lucky.
You might not get Df 'ed, or D/Aed, but you will certainly be labelled as someone who is " weak spritually" . And word will spread like wild fire, like it always does in the Org.
What to do ? Personally, Do the fade away ! Go to meetings every now and then, and over a time period just stop attending, that way it won't become such a shock to family members or close friends ! They will see it comming. Although, your going to hurt them regardless. But YOU have to do what makes YOU happy.
Staying in the JW organization just for family or friends isn't a good enough reason to stay in it. If anything, your not being true to your friends, family, and to them you wouldn't be staying true to God ! But most importantly, you wouldn't be staying true to yourself !
I had many friends in the organzation when I left, and family members, some even in bethel ! Now that im 20, im out. And even though it's difficult losing people so close to me, I can at least look in the mirror everyday and see an honest guy, an individual who stays true to himself.
Quit and never look back, it's a very dangerous mind controlling group. ! Best wishes and take it easy.
keith
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WTF are they even out in service for?
by mkr32208 inhey hey!
been a while since i've started a topic.
i've been gone for a long time and just check in from time to time but i had to comment on this.. .
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sexyk
They can take their literature and shove it up their A$$.
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Help
by sexyk innot sure where to begin with this paragraph, im just a little dazed & confused.
i was in the jw religion for 20 years of my life, baptized, almost ms, i recently left, i am 20 right now.
living with my girlfriend.
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sexyk
Not sure where to begin with this paragraph, im just a little dazed & confused.
I was in the jw religion for 20 years of my life, baptized, almost MS, I recently left, i am 20 right now. Living with my girlfriend.
I hardly hear from my parents, who I love dearly, and I rarely hear from my older brother, who was my best friend.
Part of me is gone now that their not in my life and doing strong in the religion. Im feeling emotionally mixed up and the last few nights have just cryed, and I rarely cry, because I miss my family.
I think it's rediculous if I wanted things back to normal, I'd have to go back into the religion. Just because I dont believe in what they believe in, their association with me is limited.
When you become so close to your family and friends in the religion over time, and then you lose them, it's a tough pill to swallow. And it makes me question whether I want to become close or make new friends with anyone at all.
Seems like I have trust issues, since ivé been taught my whole life not to trust people in the world , that kind of stuck with me over time, and I find it hard to trust even my GF. She's the only person im remotely close to right now, and im afraid of losing her like I lost my family and friends. So im very protective.
Seems to me everything comes and goes in life. I use to be outgoing and funny, but everyday im finding it hard to be that person I use to be.
I feel like an outcast because im not in the religion anymore and they shun me, then I feel like an outcast being in the " world" , because the religion made me feel that way, they made me feel that I was an outcast in the world for years. Very frusterating, and mixed up feelings I have.
Someone young like me, 20 years old, shouldn't have to deal with these negative feelings, it's like a waste of life. Im not sure where to begin in rehabilitating my feelings.
Well, thanks for reading guys.
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Were you a "Born-In", or were you "Converted"?
by Warlock ini was converted in the early 1980's.. warlock .
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sexyk
Born into the religion in 1986
Left late last year in 2006 !
WOOOOOO !!!!