my mother had this discussion yesterday.
basically, my main argument was that if the fds gets jehovah's holy spirit and their "food" is "the truth", yet they always are correcting themselves, how can anyone in all fairness believe it's "the truth"??
you can't show scripturally why organ transplants are a form of cannibalism and clearly a disfellowshipping offense and a couple of years later after possible disfellowshippings or death, and then believe jehovah god changed his view suddenly.
Could never figure out why the GB would say their just ordinary imperfect men, when we're all supposed to act as if they're not. As if everything they do and say is somehow coming from Jehovah himself.
When I queried this, I got the stock answer of "Well, Moses was an imperfect man who was used by God - so are the GB"
Took me a while to figure out that even though Moses was imperfect, when he spoke for God, he NEVER got it wrong.
hi guys and gals!
i will be visiting my jw parents in 2 months time.
i am df'd and no longer believe.
607 definately wasn't the year the Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians so they can't get the 2520 years to 1914. Without 1914 they're nothing.
What about the faithful and discreet slave "class". No mention of a "class" in Matt 24 v 45.
Why would Jesus choose a lying, false prophet organization to represent him in 1918? Deut 18 v 20-22
Luke 21 v 8. Jesus warned us not to follow those that say "the due time has approached"
Did they know the Society were NGO members of the UN for 10 years, they were busy fornicating with the wild beast.
it seems to me that whenever i click a new page that a new scientology advert either springs up on the right hand side or down the bottom.. if they stayed still it would be ok, but they don't, you try to read a thread and out of the corner of your eye somethings moving and its scientology!!!.
i have clicked on it a couple of times and the site isn't even that good.
do they really think that by linking the site to xjw's they are going to get converts?
Talk about adding insult to injury, bloody scinetology loons, geddemoff!!
it is mother's day on sunday and i cant for the life of me remember why the dubs dont do this one?
You have the WT's full permission to celebrate Mothers Day, valentines, christmas, birthdays, etc, as long as its not viewed as a pagan holiday in your area. How cool is that!
*** 'Awake!' 2003 9/22 p.24 The Piñata—An Ancient Tradition***
A main concern is, not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area.Understandably, opinions may vary from one place to another. Hence, it is wise to avoid turning such matters into big issues.
i have been inspired to ask this question by narkissos' thread: "is 'consciousness' overrated?
" (et al).. whilst my question is primarily directed to you nark, i want to open this up to everyone else also.. nark - from your opening ramblings (and i mean that in the most endearing way) on "is 'consciousness' overrated?
", and from other recent posts, i get the feeling that you are asking these questions because you know something and you are trying to grasp onto what you know.
I know that I'm me now, not what someone wants me to be. I know that I'm whole again after 21 years dissonance. I know that sometime in the future the anger will pass and I will move on.
have we had any new light on who the king of the north is at the present time because i need a reminder .i haven't read anything about him since the 1960s.and the last time i tried explaining it to a little old lady at the door the russian missiles were on the their way to cuba and the late night news reader, that night ,said " goodnight everyone and i hope you all have a peaceful and restfull night," which was very unusual because radio announcers did not comment after the news in those days.. thunder and lightning, frightning very very frightning, bealzeebub moma mia moma mia!.
Elders in my cong reckoned King of the North was China. Of course they never speculate.
does anyone know if there is any written evidence that the brothers in mexico were allowed to bribe the authorities for a military card?
i know this was brought out in coc, but i can't remember off-hand if there was anything in writing from the society saying that this practice was okay.. are there any posters on here that lived in mexico at that time who could shed any light on the subject?.
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Yes Ray shows official WT letters saying its ok to do this. THe bro's in Mexico even asked in the light of the persecution in Malawi and the money paid made them in the First Reserves of the army, is the bribing still ok. The GB says yes, carry on as normal.
CofC page 153, 158
i was just looking through the june 15 study wt and on page 9 at the bottem of paragraph 10 it says.... additional "disgusting things" include acts of pedophilia and other forms of sexual immorality committed by clergymen and tolerated by the church authorities.
is it any wonder that jehovah god will soon rid this earth of false religion?.
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Hi Alexb123 and welcome to the board
For the latest info go to www.silentlambs.org
baptized at 15 because forced into it.
i left the jw 2 years ago.
i should have left a long time ago.
HI Jetery and welcome, I'm a newbie too and am also really glad to have found this site. the peeps here have a wealth of experience and information we can all benefit from,
take care hun and all the best
Fresia
With all due respect you failed to answer my question. I asked;
So Yes up to a point I can agree, the witnesses do display the fruitage of love, but if a society rule conflicts with showing that love, the rule comes first every time. Would you agree that this is true?
I would be interested to hear your view on this - thanks.
