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  Scans of Watchtower books at Google books and Archive.org

  by bereanbiblestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following editions of watchtower books can be found and downloaded at books.google.com and archive.org .

  this is what i found, but sometimes its hard to find them because they are not well indexed.

  hope you don't mind the edit - lee.

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  The following editions of Watchtower books can be found and downloaded at books.
  google.com and archive.org:Millennial Dawn Volume 1 The Plan of the Ages - 135th thousand Edition 1886
  Google books: Millennial Dawn Volume 1 the plan of the ages 1.546.000 edition 1905
  Google books: Studies in the Scriptures Volume 1 Plan of the ages 3.108.000 edition 1909
  Archive.org: Millennial Dawn Volume 2 The Time is at Hand 175th thousand edition 1902
  Google books: Studies in the scriptures Volume 2 The Time is at Hand 1.174.000 edition 1911
  Archive.org: Studies in the Scriptures Volume 2 The Time is at Hand 2.023.000 edition 1927
  Archive.org: Studies in the Scriptures Volume 3 Thy Kingdom come 1.105.000 edition 1911
  Archive.org: Millennial Dawn Volume 4 the day of vengeance 38th thousand edition 1897
  Google books: Millennial Dawn Volume 5 the atonement 30th thousand edition 1899
  Google books: Millennial Dawn Volume 5 the atonement 45th thousand edition 1899
  Archive.org: Canadian libraries Studies in the Scriptures Volume 5 The Atonement 116.000 edition 1910
  Archive.org: Studies in the Scriptures Volume 6 The New Creation 66.000 edition 1909
  Archive.org :Studies in the Scriptures Volume 7 The Finished Mystery 815.000 edition 1918
  Google books: Tabernacle Shadows of the better Sacrifices 1899 Edition
  Google books: The Bible Versus the Evolution Theory 1898 old theology quaterly missing page 3
  Google books: Harp Gods 675.000 edition 1921
  Google Books: Harp Gods 800.000 edition 1921
  Google Books: Overland monthly multiple issues with Russell and Rutherford articles at Archive.org
  Deliverance 2.247.500 edition 1926 Archive.org djavu file and tif scan
  This is what I found, but sometimes its hard to find them because they are not well indexed.
  
  
  I have done the best I could with what I could read.
  Punctuation would be helpful as I couldn't always tell what went together and what didnt. Sorry if I got it wrong.
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  Big Announcement on next Service meeting

  by The Lone Ranger in

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  2. friends

  there seems to be a very important announcement this coming weeking on the next service meeting, forme it will be on wednesday 30th jan.. during the last 2 meetings they have asked that every batized jw be at that meeting and even to tell others who might not have heard the annoucement.. anyone here have any ideas i wouldn't be surprised if they are changing meeting times and arrangments...less meeting at is !.

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  Look how intricate the crown of thorns is on his head.
  Let us think about the JW teaching about the cross.
  What is one major reason they say it didn't happen? Too much trouble for the Romans.
  Yet, weren't they the ones who gave him the crown of thorns?
  that looks a hell of a lot harder to make than nailing 2 pieces of wood together.
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  Did You Ever See this in Your Congregation ? Mind Control - By Hassan

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  in steve hassan's book , " combatting cult mind control" it states : " a famous experiment in conformity by dr. solomon asch demonstrated that people will doubt their own perceptions if they are put in a social situation where it appears that the most confident people in the group are all giving the wrong answer to a question.

  another psychologist , stanley milgram , tested people for obedience to authority and found that over 90 percent of his subjects would obey orders, even if they believed that doing so caused physical suffering to another person.

  milgram wrote : " the essence of obedience consists in the fact that a person comes to view himself as the instrument for carrying out another person's wishes, and therefore no longer regards himself as responsible for his own actions .

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  I have seen it happen in many cases.
  Almost always by elders not wanting to loose power.
  
  one that comes to mind is an elder was "committing adultery" by JWs standards.
  An MS in my old hall found out and confronted him.
  The MS gave him 2 or 3 weeks to confess.
  in that time, the wily elder had the MS removed for some reason (I didn't find out).
  Then when the MS turned in the elder - it looked like he was out for vengeance.
  The elders didn't listen to him at that time, but later the elder was caught.
  Funny thing is, the MS didn't get his title back...
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  This will help us understand where other's are coming from (hopefully!)

  by Mincan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  everyone should take this test and post their results.. everyone has a direction to their flow of energy, a way of gathering information, a way of coming to decisions, and a way that they live their day-to-day life.

  put your preferences together and you are either introverted/extroverted, sensing or intuitive, thinking or feeling, and judging or perceiving.

  everyone will fit into one of these 16 categories you can thus create.

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  Your Type is
  INTJ
  Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
  Strength of the preferences %
  100 12 38 44
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  WT Library 2007 Available as ISO

  by doinmypart in

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  i have the 2007 cd available as an iso image.

  i can ftp it to someone.

  reply on this topic or pm me.

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  we could also create a .torrent file and have all of us seed it.
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  News from Mother ship

  by jefferywhat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.

  2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.

  was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.

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  OK, I got up enough courage to ask my sibling if anything is going down in Bethel.
  Turns out they are doing some heavy layoffs.
  Some Bethelites have been there a long time.
  Over 20 years of fulltime service are going to be come Special Pioneers.
  Under 20 years, regular pioneers.
  
  Rumor has it the GB maybe moving out of Brooklyn.
  Since at least one of them has left 124 building for a different residence.
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  Smell 'em a Mile Away!!!

  by prophecor in

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  2. friends

  you get to talking to folks, for the first time.

  you here thier speech, watch how they carry themselves and before you know it, you think you've got an idea of the type person you're engaging with.........then bam!!!!

  it hits you.

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  Yes, especially since I am only 2 months out of the Borg.
  They can sense it on me too.
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  News from Mother ship

  by jefferywhat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.

  2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.

  was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.

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  Belbab,
  That sounds like something the society would do.
  good theory, very plausible.
  And the r&f wouldn't necessarily notice the change.
  Elders would though...
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  Why the Watchtowers "War" argument is totally bogus

  by drew sagan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from my own personal experience the watchtowers position on war always appeared to be one of the most difficult issues to navigate.

  a number of times when i was first leaving the wts i spoke with jws who all used this argument to show me how "wrong" i was about the "truth".

  while i knew the watchtowers arguments where wrong, i had a very difficult time figuring out exactly why it was wrong.

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  Drew, I knew of 2 JWs who joined the military while active good standing witnesses.
  
  In regards to becoming a majority, I think the closest the society has come is on the island of St. Helena.
  I believe the yearly report shows a stunning 1:30 ratio of witnesses.
  Yet that is not enough to rule or even have the ability to elect someone(even if they did vote).
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  Weeklong Elders School for POs This Year? Any info?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just heard that my ex-father in law will be attending a weeklong elder's school at patterson for presiding overseers sometime this year.

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  Oracle...
  If you are an elder, you should go!
  This could be a great way for this board to know what is going on in the underground of the tower.