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  Why didn't someone warn me?

  by slimboyfat in

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  my god i thought i was going to have a heart attack!

  why didn't someone warn me there was going to be a talk on "how to identify an apostate" tonight?.

  well i am just lucky the brother didn't mention the tell tale signs of firstly, clutching your chest at the surprise when you hear title of the talk, then grabbing hold of the seat like you are on a nose-diving airplane for its duration.

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  First of : not believing or no following the JW organisation or doctrine is not being an Christian apostate (maybe it's being a JW apostate which is not the same at all and therefore maybe have a chance to be a real christian without their bulleshiting self doctrine).

  Second of : Their definition of Apostasy in the reasonning book is Anti-Christ (they take Christ's place - it is not any organisation that any have to recognise it's Christ and only Christ for what he means spiritually as a leader) and more over, just from having put their very personnal definition of apostasy they are Apostates (the GB) biblically in facts !!!
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  Trevor: Meditation

  by onacruse in

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  2. beliefs

  in one type of meditation the mind is able to be fully conscious without he intrusion of words, which lead to thoughts,.

  trevor, i'm not trying to get on your ass here, but, please.... thoughts without words?

  that is a fundamental epistemological impossibility...rather like farting without emitting gas.. or, perhaps, we're talking about a purely personal "mystical" experience, which cannot be put into (and did not spring from, nor finds any possible formulation within) words?

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  To me feelings don't need words ...
  (it even happen that you can't express a feeling in words good enough to express it) ... So
  
  A baby can't really talk (but he can feel and think in his own way)
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  As An Atheist: Finding Real Spirituality After JWs

  by Seeker4 in

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  i've written on here several times about how the witnesses have a really shallow spirituality.

  remember how there were spiritual activities, "sacred service" as it was often called - bible study, prayer, meetings and field service - and everything else was considered not a spiritual activity, not sacred service?

  they toyed with expanding the 'sacred service' definition for a short time.

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  Yep interesting thread ... ...
  
  Quiet interesting to realiase how even the word SPIRITUALITY do not mean the same to everybody I guess it's because, Religious fan s have made this word their own regarding their doctrines ... IT'S NOT A RELIGIOUS MATTER !!!
  EVEVRYBODY have a spirituality but then it is well or bad spirited ... I found that S4 explained it very well
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  Proof that the world is nuts!

  by crazyblondeb in

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  proof that the world is nuts ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.

  in lebanon, men are legally allowed to have sex with animals,.

  but the animals must be female.

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  ... and also ... ...
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  i got a myspace..add me!

  by candidlynuts in

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  http://www.myspace.com/candidlynuts.

  i'm not very good at editing yet but i'll figure it out.. you all add me!

  i'm looking for board members that have myspace's so far found one or two..some pages are too big for my puter to load.

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  Thanks folks !!!

  Vitty

  ....................myspace..................I dont get

  What do you do with it ?

  It's a blog with automatic syndication/rss with/to your friends blogs and theirs, It's quiet cool
  from any once account you can suscribe and then make your own with or without generators (Check candy's one above on the right you have button which lead different kind of generator URL)
  
  here is mine, if you suscribe and feel like to share your space with me : http://www.myspace.com/cosycom

  Its quiete fun people send you their today blogs (rant, ideas, agenda, questionnaires with their answers and ask for yours, funy stuffs, say hello ... whatever they want to share with their network).

  Try you might like it
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  Do you still believe in the Return of Christ? 66% says in 2007

  by magdalenefan in

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  i thank you for your support for my sadness over my divorce, and not taking in the faith of the witnesses no more.

  i tried the search engine for some articles and it said it was being updated.. i am still believing in the word of god, i dont believe anymore in greedy people.

  how many here believe that christ will still return?.

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  ok ok ok,

  Not before 2050 ... ... and not in a human forme but spiritually into all ... we will have grown up for good as a whole, we will have been through so much bullshit that at the end we will understand that we need to share and love every space and aspect of our lives whatever kind of life/form it is.

  Do you believe me? ... You don't have to ... we can die at any time ...
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  Cognitive Dissonance...A Mind Dance

  by Confession in

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  cognitive dissonance.

  there are things that i believe, hold them closely to my heart.

  i may myself deceive, to keep on feeling smart.

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  Hi - I'm new here too

  by dazednotconfused in

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  30 of my 40 some years on this mortal coil have been spent as a witness.

  once i was old enough to realize the meetings were not a place to play and run around i understood the gravity of my situation.

  "just love jehovah and do his will" i was told.

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  (((DnC))) ...

  Welcome
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  Science vs. Religion - Must We Choose Between Them?

  by bavman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i dare to say science and religion are two different animals.

  they may try to explain similar things but in different ways.

  i don't believe man will ever live without either religion or science nor would i want us too.

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  Thanks Trevor,

  I have my idea on why people do not understand me sometimes (many reasons possible anyway I'm not in there head and they are not in mine). That's why I don't put that much weight on it emotionnaly ...

  Since I've reach the conclusion that in life we have to agree to desagree, even to give up at some point when it doesn't lead anywhere further ... it is still always fun, however it is handle, to give my opinion. And I like opposition as much as agreement, it's good ... we need to challenge our views. Sometimes I'm waiting for the argument which will have an impact on my view ... it happens ... and it leads me farest (on the subject or some other subjects regarding to "what", "how" and "WHY" things are expressed). it's all learning from others about others and also myself ...
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  Did You Ever Do This?

  by Outaservice in

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  it seemed that running my business and all the meetings at the hall, plus my social life was taking a toll on my time.

  there was a brother at the hall, that was married, and a very good public speaker (used to be a radio announcer) .

  anyhow, he was always short on cash and was agreeable to my offer as follows............... if i was assigned to give a talk out of town at a neighboring congregation, i would pay him to take the talk for me as a substitute (at the time $25.00) and then i would stay home that day.. i gave him $10 for an instruction talk, $10 for a service meeting part, and $5 for anything else such as reading the watchtower sundays or a bible reading, etc.. it was a 'win, win' situation for both of us.. outaservice (now out of money).

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  ... ... (but still a win/win)