Posts by RAF

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BASIC thinking....a TEST of how rational we are.

by Terry in

darkness and light.. something and nothing.. heat and cold.. happiness and sadness.. love and hate.. which of the above are actually existing things and which are conceptual constructs?.

hint: this is a trick question.

but, go ahead and answer anyway.

RAF

Terry,
what I mean is that in getting into too much details you are yourself getting into irrational conclusion by generalisation based on your point of view on some matter (for example there was no need to get into the subject by generalisation about believers: like scared and therefore slaves (1) ... it's just not true for me as a believer for instance, so I can't buy all your stuffs.
(1) you can be slave of anything from what you are scared of (scared of believing because it will ruin your life for instance – but if you look around you’ll realised that believing doesn’t ruins every believers life and that they also all do not ruins other peoples lifes).
It's like you want to sell your baby in every bath (since you can be rational why not just stay rational on the subject) And that (to me) is the most interesting part to notice when I’m reading you.
Language barrier? Hummmmmmm ... Interesting ... why not but maybe we are not interested in the same matter into the development and conclusions (as being interesting to notice).
For instance you want to stay on scientific bases (to not fall into what can without proof being stated by any as irrational) but at the same time you are throwing personal irrational arguments which can be contested. (Why? Keep them away)
But expecting everybody to understand everybody would be irrational in fact anyway (not totally and accurately measurable but a fact). So you might keep your generalisation about believers for instance away next time and including them when they are contextually true (2) instead of trying to sell them for (to me) irrational / personal reasons.
(2) Believers scared and slaves for JW’s – well I can agree on this generalisation globally because of their specific belief and for some other religions too … but not for all believers.
I don’t buy this kind of generalisation and development because it’s abrainwashing system (depending of the how is considered the material by the reader – or - since you don’t know yet what the writter is talking about you still have to consider what is written who knows it could be interesting) and your technique reminds me how the JW reasoning book have been written in throwing arguments out of context and turning around subjects with too much information and generalisation (3) to the point that the reader forget about what is important to notice or to enquire on (= why the details? / How much are they accurate / relevant? And if not, what is the purpose of the diversion – which is finally the most important to notice). That’s why I don’t like details, when the concept would be enough, BUT the details become interesting when I’m interested to know why the details.

(3) and from hearing the same things so much they finally buy them … as if they have been demonstrated.

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Does this amaze you or am I the only one????

by avidbiblereader in

jw
friends

i will try to make this brief but how can you abbreviate love and kindness?

this is truly amazing!!!!

as many you have seen i ran into a small glitch on the forum the last couple of threads, without going into detail and really not necessary as there have been plenty of comments and views on both threads, i was willing to walk away from the forum because this is my nature as paul said in .

RAF

Happy Happy Happy !!!

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BASIC thinking....a TEST of how rational we are.

by Terry in

darkness and light.. something and nothing.. heat and cold.. happiness and sadness.. love and hate.. which of the above are actually existing things and which are conceptual constructs?.

hint: this is a trick question.

but, go ahead and answer anyway.

RAF

Terry you're a smooth talker ... I'm enjoying the way you are turning around the subject (with BIG GENRALISATION and TOO MUCH intellectual Babeling into DETAILS SOCIOLOGIAL paterns) whithout getting what you are introducing yourself as an issue about subject when it have something to do with you / your ways / your belief ... it's very interesting to observe ...
Leave it ... (why thinking about that? since you feel good) since that's rational enough for you ...
And why do you feel that you've touched a nerve? Do you think that you have that power ...

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BASIC thinking....a TEST of how rational we are.

by Terry in

darkness and light.. something and nothing.. heat and cold.. happiness and sadness.. love and hate.. which of the above are actually existing things and which are conceptual constructs?.

hint: this is a trick question.

but, go ahead and answer anyway.

RAF

Unfortunately, I don't speak French. So, I can't answer you.
in other words what are you scared of ? to study about rationalisme at this point ? isn't that being a slave somehow?
scared / slave (that's what you attribute to religious people) when this is just your point of view (not really rational conclusion) cause for instance I'm not scared and my belief doesn't make me a slave of anything ...

I do not espect an answer ... take it or leave it

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BASIC thinking....a TEST of how rational we are.

by Terry in

darkness and light.. something and nothing.. heat and cold.. happiness and sadness.. love and hate.. which of the above are actually existing things and which are conceptual constructs?.

hint: this is a trick question.

but, go ahead and answer anyway.

RAF

Oh man your stuff becomes a religion ... wow ... take care !!!

I guess we can leave without being sure of wathever since it doesn't lead to depression and bullying others ... NO?

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