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  Who was a squeaky clean dub?

  by Marilyn in

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  i'm wondering if the majority here were seriously conservative squeaky clean dubs?

  i took the whole thing very seriously.

  there seems to be such a fun element here - i can't imagine everyone being those dull folk all decked out in their wt uniform with accompanying plastic expressions.. marilyn

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  Eric

  I was a militantly correct spawn of the Watchtower when I was a boy.

  I did not ask to be removed from school assemblies where the anthem would be played, or pledges of alliegence recited. I would attend so that I could sit down defiantly at the appropriate moment. Contrary to the experience of many on this board, this did not result in alienation from my peers, in fact it had some of the 'bad kids' thinking I was kind of cool.

  I once waited after school when I knew there was a staff meeting taking place, knocked on the door and bombed the meeting with an offer of the "Truth book". I was surely kickin' butt for Jehovah.

  About the time I turned thirteen, I was given the #5 talk on the subject of Apocrypha. (We had a VERY small congregation, my parents had moved to where the need was great, as defined by the WTS. As it turned out very few in that wide area had any need for the spume from the Watchtower font.) I got out the index, the Concordance, the Aid to Bible Understanding, the Diaglott and opened the first real question I'd ever had. Is the bible inspired, if so then which parts, who decided which parts, were they annointed and ultimately, who cares?

  After that it was just a game of bending the rules.

  Eric
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  10 years since My Exit - The Introduction

  by Amazing in

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  my exit introduction .

  over the next few weeks or months, i will post an accounting of my exit process in a series of 15 short stories.

  it will be part of my permanent notes that may someday be incorporated in a book likely a private book for my children and grandchildren.

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  Eric

  Part 16: Taming my immensely bloated ego.

  Eric
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  GB says NO SPORTS for JWs??!!WHAT??HUh?!!

  by plmkrzy in

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  -------------------s post the other day got me.

  thinking about all the things that really bugged.

  me about the wts.

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  Eric

  Nytelecom1,

  You've 'shredded' Vermont? Vermont? The article in the Awake! magazine warned against "thrill sports", so I'd say you've yet to cross any imaginary line the GB may put up for christians. Har!

  I grew up a JW in the Rockie Mountains of British Columbia. (My parents went to serve where the need was great). I've skiied Marmot Basin when my parents dropped me off, and I've skiied there on school trips when I went on a bus cheek-to-cheek (sometimes literally, but Mom and Dad never found out) with those terrible 'worldies'.

  I also skiied Sunshine and Lake Louise on mixed single JW weekend trips. We arrived with the sexes in different vehicles, booked the sexes into separate rooms, bought enough alchohol for our chaperone to get totally sick stinking pissed on and then the party ensued.

  I'll reserve comment on your "skiing is for fags" comment. I mean, you did go of to "the park" with "your brothers". When you figure out what a ski weekend is all about, shout back, K?

  Eric
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  The meeting did not go well.

  by Danni in

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  it would have taken more much more time to tell it all.

  he told us the meeting would began as soon as the other brothers arrived.

  danni: i will give you two.

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  Eric

  In all this internecine hand-holding someone should really speak about the mind of the pedophile.

  A pedophile has a very limited chance to realize his or her fantasy of sexual contact with a child.

  The normal avenues of sexual fulfillment, marriage, dating, picking up sluts and boning the bosses wife, none of these satisfy the pedophile. He is attracted to little kids.

  And so he schemes. He plans out a way that he can come into contact with children. It is no good to try it as a school-teacher anymore, that was busted a long time ago, and the first whistle is your last. Catholic priest used to be a good one (if you like boys) but the spotlight is on there now. The pedophile might try to become a lifeguard, so as to be in charge of children already half-naked. (I have personally suspected such a pedophile, gathered evidence, had him arrested and charged.)

  Still the pedophile will scheme. He is planning a way to come into contact with your child. The current system of "Two witnesses, else no crime" is nirvana for these types. What kid-diddler would not like these rules?

  Anyone who thinks that the rate of pedophilia within JW ranks is 'normal' or 'within accepted normal rates' ought to say that out loud, and then think again.

  Eric
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  Screen Name vs Character

  by Amazing in

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  since my character is part of the issues that have been addressed by several posters, i thought that i would clear this up:.

  teejay said: conclusion: no more insulting than you when you mentioned that one has to wonder about someone who'd pick the screen name "amazing.".

  i am not sure if teejay shares agreement with what he quoted, but for discussion sake, i will treat it as though he does.

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  I think the internet has been around long enough that the appeal of a "screen name" ought to have worn off by now. Unless you have something to hide, just use your regular damn name already.

  Eric
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  desert

  by larc in

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  what is your favorite desert, in the following categories:.

  1. pie.

  2. cake.

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  LOL, Alan.

  'Cause I've been through the dessert on a horse with no name...

  Never been a fan of confections, but cheesecake makes me salivate.

  Eric
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  Double Standards

  by Norm in

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  aftenposten writes the following in its sunday, januay 13 paper:.

  similar to taleban, escapes criticism.

  homesexuals are beheaded, prisceless artifacts are destroyed, women have to cover themselves up and the king rules.

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  Aw heck Norm, the Americans are doing their part to reduce energy consumption! Just look at the number of jurisdictions that have abandoned kilowatt wasteful old 'sparky-the-electric-chair' and have gone to the green alternative: death by lethal injection. Credit where credit is due, and all that.

  Eric
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  Regarding MAD APOSTATE

  by silentlambs in

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  i wish to make a comment on something that disturbs me deeply to the point i cannot let it pass or be ignored.

  a little over a year ago i resigned as an elder to protest wt policy and how it hurt children.

  the impetus that brought me to that conclusion was a child i knew personally that was in danger.

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  General Observation:

  Mad Apostate (and his alter egos) always demanded that everyone direct their actions toward to total destruction of the JW organization. There was no quarter to be allowed. Mad Apostate demanded that Raymond Franz be shaken out of his torpor to reveal imagined hidden secrets.

  Mad Apostates goals were entirely unrealistic.

  Silent Lambs and Lee Elder are working hard on concrete issues that may in fact make life more livable for those caught in the WT web. I salute these efforts, and make my small attempts to help further them.

  Is there an Elite Clique at work here? I don't think so. There are definitely some people who display an elite level of research and analysis. There are some here who have an elite level of empathy and compassion. There are some whose actions and involvement in critical situations hint at the elite level of their common human decency.

  I did not find Mad Apostates contributions to the board to be particularly useful but I would say I think it premature to delete him. He never did present a concise plan to achieve his goal. (875+posts not withstanding) He ought to have that chance.

  Eric
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  Quiz: What do these have in common?

  by Simon in

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  this will test you knowledge of wt history ... what do all the following items have in common:.

  adding machines.

  aeroplanes.

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  I just don't get the reasoning.

  Closer2fine,

  This is a good thing for you, as ratcheting up the end time prophecy is all about irrational hysteria, and has no basis in reason.

  Eric
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  experiences from the 2002 yearbook.....venting

  by flower in

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  if i have to sit here and listen to the father reading any more experiences from the yearbook i'm gonna puke.

  hes all happy cause they are such great experiences.

  they hold on so desperately to hear something exciting because their own daily lives are so bleak.

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  Thirdson,

  My pleasure,

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  *** yb71 134-5 Country Reports (Part One) ***
  WESTERN SAMOA Population: 140,000
  Peak Publishers: 92 Ratio: 1 to 1,522
  A brother with a family of eleven, including an adopted daughter and pioneer living with them, wanted to get all of them overseas to the international assembly in Fiji. Only one source of finance was available. His employers kept a superannuation fund to be withdrawn on retirement or in very exceptional circumstances. Having worked there many years, the brother figured he would have enough in it to get the family to the assembly. Reasoning that integrity and faith in Jehovah will get one through the coming tribulation whether one has money in a fund or not, he resolved to invest his fund toward guaranteeing his family’s future spiritual survival.
  It was not until the week of travel to the assembly that he was able to contact his managing director. Naturally, his director felt as many would. He wondered why a family man would wish to withdraw his only security against the future and chance leaving nothing for them if something happened to him. The brother explained the importance to him and his family as Jehovah’s worshipers of attending the assembly and that this was the only way for them to get to Fiji. His being a respected and trusted employee, his director favorably granted the request and made an unprecedented exception in letting him withdraw his superannuation fund in full. Happy and thankful to Jehovah for this blessing, he went the following day and paid his family’s ship fares to Fiji. The family then joyfully prepared to leave.
  Later that week, however, the brother was informed that the ship was strike-bound in another country and would not be sailing as expected. The only other way out of the country, so as to be at the assembly in time, was by air at greater expense. Suffice it to say that the brother and his family enjoyed the assembly, with no regrets. They know that only spiritual steadfastness, faith and obedience to Jehovah will preserve them. in the future and not transient material possessions.

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  I have the 1997 CD-ROM. It may go back further than yours.

  In testing my CD-burner, I ended up with several copies of my '97 WT CD-ROM. They're just lying around here, begging for somewhere to go.

  Eric