You may abandon by one or two at a time but, y ou will never be abandon again by everyone in your life because, of a book publishing company.
Philip
most of the time i'm ok with the problem i'm about to discuss.
it just seems that occasionally it hurts me more than others.. for those of you who's family are all jws: it was hard to leave all of your family behind but for whatever reason, it made you happier to go than to stay.
after you left, did you ever get scared that those in your new life would abaondon you as well?
You may abandon by one or two at a time but, y ou will never be abandon again by everyone in your life because, of a book publishing company.
Philip
over the last year, i've been exploring the use of herbs and supplements...hey, i'm gettin' old, and i need all the help i can get!
lol.
so, here's what i've tried (in addition to general vitamin supplements like b, c, and some other selected minerals):.
Stephen Barrett, M.D.
Americans are now spending billions of dollars per year for capsules, tablets, bulk herbs, and herbal teas. Although many of these items are consumed for their flavor, most are probably used for supposed medicinal qualities. Sales by multilevel distributors and pharmacies amount to hundreds of millions more for products that are obviously intended for self-medication. Herbs are also marketed by naturopaths, acupuncturists, iridologists, chiropractors, and unlicensed herbalists, many of whom prescribe them for the entire gamut of health problems. Many such practitioners are not qualified to make appropriate medical diagnoses or to determine how the products they prescribe compare to proven drugs.
Herbal advocates like to point out that about half of today's medicines were derived from plants. (Digitalis, for example, was originally derived from leaves of the foxglove plant.) This statement is true but misleading. Drug products contain specified amounts of active ingredients. Herbs in their natural state can vary greatly from batch to batch and often contain chemicals that cause side effects but provide no benefit.
When potent natural substances are discovered, drug companies try to isolate and synthesize the active chemical in order to provide a reliable supply. They also attempt to make derivatives that are more potent, more predictable, and have fewer side effects. In the case of digitalis, derivatives provide a spectrum of speed and duration of action. Digitalis leaf is almost never used today because its effects are less predictable. Many herbs contain hundreds or even thousands of chemicals that have not been completely cataloged. Some of these chemicals may turn out to be useful as therapeutic agents, but others could well prove toxic.
In the United States, herbs intended for preventive or therapeutic use would be regulated as drugs under federal laws. To evade the law, these products are marketed as "foods" or "dietary supplements" without health claims on their labels. Since herbs are not regulated as drugs, no legal standards exist for their processing, harvesting, or packaging. In many cases, particularly for products with expensive raw ingredients, contents and potency are not accurately disclosed on the label. Many products marked as herbs contain no useful ingredients, and some even lack the principal ingredient for which people buy them. Surveys have found have found that the ingredients and doses of several products varied considerably from brand to brand.
Some manufacturers are trying to develop industrywide quality-assurance standards, but possible solutions are a long way off.
The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 included herbal products in its definition of "dietary supplements," even though herbs have little or no nutritional value. (The bill was spearheaded by the health-food industry in order to weaken FDA regulation of its products.) Herbal or other botanical ingredients include processed or unprocessed plant parts (bark, leaves, flowers, fruits, and stems) as well as extracts and essential oils. They are available as teas, powders, tablets, capsules, and elixirs, and may be marketed as single substances or combined with other herbs, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, or non-nutrient ingredients. Products containing multiple herbal ingredients may produce adverse effects that are impossible to predict. A 1999 survey by Prevention magazine's found that 12% of herbal remedy users reported adverse reactions [6]
The manufacture of prescription and over-the-counter drugs is closely regulated by the FDA, But herbal products are not [7]. Even the fact that an herb is known to be toxic does not ensure its removal from the marketplace. When the FDA concludes that an herb is dangerous, it usually issues a warning rather than a ban. A few years ago, the FDA Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition maintained a database of reports the FDA has received of adverse events associated with the use of dietary supplements and herbal products. However, the database is no longer posted because the FDA could not be certain that the reported problems were caused by the products or occurred for other reasons.
To make a rational decision about an herbal product, it would be necessary to know what it contains, whether it is safe, and whether it has been demonstrated to be as good or better than pharmaceutical products available for the same purpose. For most herbal ingredients this information is incomplete or unavailable. Even worse, most published information about herbs is unreliable. The late Varro E. Tyler, Ph.D., former dean of the Purdue University School of Pharmacy and a leading authority on pharmacognosy (the science of medicines from natural sources), observed:
More misinformation about the safety and efficacy of herbs is reaching the public currently than at any previous time, including the turn-of-the-century heyday of patent medicines. The literature promoting herbs includes pamphlets, magazine articles, and books ranging in quality from cheaply printed flyers to elaborately produced studies in fine bindings with attractive illustrations. Practically all of these writings recommend large numbers of herbs for treatment based on hearsay, folklore, and tradition. The only criterion that seems to be avoided in these publications is scientific evidence. Some writings are so comprehensive and indiscriminate that they seem to recommend everything for anything. Even deadly poisonous herbs are sometimes touted as remedies, based on some outdated report or a misunderstanding of the facts. Particularly insidious is the myth that there is something almost magical about herbal drugs that prevents them, in their natural state, from harming people [8].
Two of Tyler's books (The Honest Herbal and Herbs of Choice) summarize what is known about many commonly used herbs, as do several recently published guidebooks for professionals. However, for most substances, not enough is known to make well-informed decisions about their use. The American Botanical Council, which markets many science-based herbal guidebooks, includes several unreliable books in its otherwise valuable catalog. In 1996, I asked the council's executive director Mark Blumenthal to purge the catalog of books that contain highly irresponsible or quack advice. When he refused, I made a similar request to Tyler, who was a member of the Council's 7-person board of trustees. But the books I complained about remained in the catalog, and several other quacky ones were added.
A study published in 2002 found that many sites located by searching for "herbs" and "cancer cure" contained illegal claims. [9] Dr. Stephen Barrett advises consumers to ignore advice from anyone who has a financial interest in the sale of dietary supplements, herbs, or homeopathic products.
Researchers from Harvard have evaluated claims made on 443 Web sites located by searching for information about eight widely used herbal supplements (ginkgo biloba, St John's wort, echinacea, ginseng, garlic, saw palmetto, kava kava, and valerian root). [10]. The researchers concluded:
The involvement of drug companies into the herbal marketplace may improve standardization of dosage for a few products. And public and professional interest in herbs is likely to stimulate more research. However, with safe and effective medicines available, treatment with herbs rarely makes sense, and many of the conditions for which herbs are recommended are not suitable for self-treatment.
This page was updated on March 16, 2004.
it's not even april yet, and the watchtower society is revving up it's change at an alarming pace.. this year, the changes have all been big.. first, they announce that there will be two editions of the watchtower - a private edition for members only with only the study articles in and a public edition with no articles.
the 24 elders may be involved in communicating divine truths to the governing body.
the long held teaching that 1935 is the cutoff date for selection and gathering of the anointed has gone the way of the 1914 generation change in a convenient "questions from readers" article.. you cannot wear casual clothes after the convention, even if going out to eat.. .
"So what am I supposed to do? Leave my tools at the lobby door, go up to my room, change into my dress clothes, go back down to the lobby, take the tools across the street, then go back up to my room, change back into my work clothes, and then finish the job?" He said: "Yes." I asked him if this was Scriptural, and he said: "No, but it's what we are expected to do."
I just realized, JWS are all insane.
Philip
who can just tick you off more or easily than anyone else you know?
a spouse, a child, a parent, a workmate, a certain elder or ms?.
abr.
George W. Bush
No blood, has killed more dubs than any other belief.
Philip
No, I believe only in randomized double blind placebo controlled tests. If it hasn't be proven to work or can't be tested, it is not worth my time, effort or money. There are millions of dead positive thinkers that believed.
Philip
my sister and i were raised in the "truth", by our mother alone, working for minimum wage.
as a young child, i remember being give a dollar or two every week to put in the contribution box at the kh, my mother was making $40 to $60 a week and gave that cult $2, plus the gas for fs, plus the cost of books and magazines.
we had 6 6' tall bookcases all full of the watchtower and awake annual volumes, back to the 50's or 40's, plus every book the wtbts ever published.
Thanks for all positive comments.
Philip
my sister and i were raised in the "truth", by our mother alone, working for minimum wage.
as a young child, i remember being give a dollar or two every week to put in the contribution box at the kh, my mother was making $40 to $60 a week and gave that cult $2, plus the gas for fs, plus the cost of books and magazines.
we had 6 6' tall bookcases all full of the watchtower and awake annual volumes, back to the 50's or 40's, plus every book the wtbts ever published.
But you seem SO OVER IT ALL! How are you doing now REALLY?
I would have said I was over it all, before finding JWD, now I am working on the demons of my childhood. I am doing very well.
Have you married and fathered children? Is your sister still a witness?
I am married, have been for 8 years, lived together for 16 years, before that. No children, growing up a JW killed any desire for me to procreate. The world is such a bad place why would anyone want to being children into it? I know this is not true but, that doesn't remove the brainwashing. My sister is still one, as well as all family that I know, except a half brother and his daughter.
Like I said, you seem so well now! Is all the pain gone?
The pain is never gone when you are shunned by your family.
Philip
my sister and i were raised in the "truth", by our mother alone, working for minimum wage.
as a young child, i remember being give a dollar or two every week to put in the contribution box at the kh, my mother was making $40 to $60 a week and gave that cult $2, plus the gas for fs, plus the cost of books and magazines.
we had 6 6' tall bookcases all full of the watchtower and awake annual volumes, back to the 50's or 40's, plus every book the wtbts ever published.
My sister and I were raised in the "Truth", by our Mother alone, working for minimum wage. As a young child, I remember being give a dollar or two every week to put in the contribution box at the KH, my mother was making $40 to $60 a week and gave that cult $2, plus the gas for FS, plus the cost of books and magazines. We had 6 6' tall bookcases all full of the Watchtower and Awake annual volumes, back to the 50's or 40's, plus every book the WTBTS ever published. I don't remember studying any of those books, I might just be blocking the unpleasant memories.
Our biological Father abandoned the three of us, when my Mother was six months pregnant with me in Jan 1961, (I have never meet the man , he to my knowledge he never paid child support). This abandoned caused my Mother and Sister to hate men and me the unfortunate owner of a penis , became their outlet of this hatred. As far back as I can remember, I was told that I was worthless, ugly, stupid and fat. My mother decided I had Dyslexia and never miss an opportunity to remind me that I was stupid, funny no doctor ever made that diagnoses.
When I was about four an Uncle died and our Aunt moved in with us (she didn't want to have to get a job, she was another man hater, now I was living with three of them), she must have been one of the original bible students, because, she believed all of the anti-medicine, health food store, grape juice cancer cure, chiropractor, BS of the early cult. When she lived with us, we were forced to eat this health food crap and we were sick all the time. She was too lazy to peel potatoes so, she said the all of the vitamins were in the skin. Try eating boiled russet potatoes with the skins on they are disgusting, (I hate potatoes to this day because of this.) As soon as she turned 62 and could collect SS she moved out (stopped mooching off of a single mother working for minimum wage).
In 1977 at age 49 my Mother was diagnosed with a brain tumor , (probably from eating all of those health foods.) The tumor was very vascular and she had trouble finding a doctor that would attempt to remove it without blood . After consulting dozens of doctors, s he finally found a doctor that had a too big an ego to admit he couldn't help her and he opened her up to take a look around, he did this three more times, (without any positive results) before she died in 1987 at age 59.
Growing up without a father figure in my life, saved me from being sucked into the JW cult. I would have done anything to get some male attention, if any of the brothers would have given me the time of day, I would have got baptized, pioneered, became MS anything. I am so glad that those self-righteous bastards never bothered. One time when I was six or seven, our landlord (a worldly man) took me to a baseball game, I must have had too much fun, because my Mother never let it happen again, actually I am surprised she let it happen in the first place.
I went along with it until age 13, then I did the minimum required not to get kicked out into the street. At 16 found out that at least one female was attracted to me and that I was not as worthless, ugly, stupid and fat, as I had been told all of my life , that was the end of any JW cult control . I took a electronics class and found out that I was not stupid, I was actually smarter than most of the other students, I got my first job as a teachers aid in the electronics class. At 18, I got a decent job and convinced my Mother and Sister move out of the slums and share a rental in a much better neighborhood (I told my mother, I wasn't going to pay anything to live with her in the slums.) We live there until, I bought my first house two years later and let them rent from me. Shortly after that I started my first long-term relationship and it wasn't long before Mother and Sister moved out, they didn't want to be around a fornicator.
27 years later I found JWD and found out the truth about the "Truth".
according to the faithful and discreet slave writing in the pages of the watchtower magazine:.
jesus set up his (invisible) kingdom in the year 1914.. he (king jesus) had been given the task of directing the evangelical messege which would separate sheeplike people and goatlike people into distinct groups (according to how they responded to the messege they heard.).
okay....how well has jesus lived up to his title and duties of king?.
Kings don't get impeached. They have to die..
Philip