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  New JW chain-email going around

  by FaithfulBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  apparently, the society knows exactly when the great tribulation is going to break out, but they're only letting the public know through subliminal messages in their images.

  here's a new chain letter that's being passed around between witnesses:.

  (daniel 2:34, 35, 44, 45).

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  jamiebowers

  It hit in 2004, backed off in 2011, and hit again in 2012. What is that supposed to indicate?

  Maybe the stone is really a ping pong ball.
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  A death in my family (JW funeral)

  by fade_away in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for the first time in my life i have lost someone close to me that i loved very much.

  my brother died last week of an asthma attack.

  i just got back from the funeral that was held yesterday.

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  I'm so sorry for your loss! Being an agnostic, I don't have an athiest's answer for you. But all living things that I know of are recycled after death. So why not a person's spirit? No one knows for certain whether there is life after death. So the way I look at it is, if there is, then great! If there isn't, I won't know anyhow. This idea has gotten me through loss. I really don't mean to sound flip.
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  Need help

  by 1visitor in

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  jamiebowers

  Welcome to JWN, and please excuse the inside joke I'll be sharing with older forum members:

  I'm writing a paper on JW for my religion class, and I was thought it would be nice to have input from current or previous members.

  Ah, where's Andre when you need him? LOL!

  Bold is mine.

  But seriously, why not interview exjws first and ask them for examples of Watch Tower beliefs, doctrine, and practices as described in Lifton's Eight Criteria for Thought Control? http://www.cultrecover.com/pdfs/lifton8criteria.pdf

  Then, if current jws will talk to you, interview them and ask how the examples given by ex-jws aren't true. It could be the focus of your paper.
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  It's been 1 year today we landed in the wilds of PA

  by TotallyADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry i have not check in the last 3 months my computer was broke.

  and my wife and i have been very busy with the new business.

  it has been 1 year today we landed in our new home here in wilds of pa. our 22 year old cat is now 23 years old and somedays it acts like it's going to out live us.

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  Glad to hear you two are doing well... continued success!
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  I went to the Watchtower Study with the "Selma and Steve" article today, and....

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no, i didn't really - but i'm anxious to hear from anyone who did!!.

  what happened after the paragraph was read?

  did anyone try to denounce abusing one's spouse under any circumstances, or were most answers supportive of the "advice" given to selma, i.e.

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  When I was in, I remember a ministerial servant lost his privileges and got a public reproof for having hit his wife. His wife was even a non-witness at the time.

  BIG deal...it's just the Watch Tower once more treating crime as sin.
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  Inquiry to my website: What to do about 16 yr old converting to JWs? I will send family JWN link

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i received the following email today at my website, www.watchtowerdocuments.com.

  please help this loving uncle with some advice:.

  hello, i dont know if anyone can help me with this but i thought i would give it a shot.

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  The story sounds like BS to me. I don't like that organization. And I know publishers "do their own thing" alot. But I didn't know of any parents that let their child date at 16. Let alone to a person outside the organization, and then white wash it by having the teenager get baptized.

  Wha, maybe the guy is 18 or over. The jw guy that I married was 24 when he pursued me at 16. There was another couple in our hall that had similar circumstances.
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  Inquiry to my website: What to do about 16 yr old converting to JWs? I will send family JWN link

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i received the following email today at my website, www.watchtowerdocuments.com.

  please help this loving uncle with some advice:.

  hello, i dont know if anyone can help me with this but i thought i would give it a shot.

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  jamiebowers

  The story sounds like BS to me. I don't like that organization. And I know publishers "do their own thing" alot. But I didn't know of any parents that let their child date at 16. Let alone to a person outside the organization, and then white wash it by having the teenager get baptized.

  Wha, maybe the guy is 18 or over. The jw guy that I married was 24 when he pursued me at 16. There was another couple in our hall that had similar circumstances.
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  Landmark Clergy Sex Abuse Case Now in USA & Sweeping The World

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  and so goes the selling of more wts properties to cover thier ass........ usa.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfbboedwxda.

  ireland:.

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  jamiebowers

  Zid, when a YT video is disabled, just double click on the screen, and it will come up. The Watch Tower wasn't mentioned in either video. But if the law is going after the GIANT, powerful Catholic Church, I don't see why it wouldn't go after a small potatoes group like the Watch Tower.
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  The Hypercorrection Effect - Scientific American article

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  permanent address: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=certainty-principle-people-who-hold-false-convictions-are-better-at-retaining-corrected-information.

  certainty principle: people who hold false convictions are better at retaining corrected informationresearchers have used imaging technology to spy on the brain as it corrects strongly held beliefs, shedding light on how we might learn from our mistakes.. by charles q. choi | friday, april 27, 2012. image: flickr/olly newport.

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  I think there is a difference between mistaken facts and erroneously held religious convictions. There is no emotion involved in what the capital of Canada is, but there is usually deep emotional connection with spirituality, even when doctrine is blatantly incorrect.
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  Inquiry to my website: What to do about 16 yr old converting to JWs? I will send family JWN link

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i received the following email today at my website, www.watchtowerdocuments.com.

  please help this loving uncle with some advice:.

  hello, i dont know if anyone can help me with this but i thought i would give it a shot.

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  jamiebowers

  Please read Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan asap. Here is a lnk to his website: http://www.freedomofmind.com/

  I was also 16 when I met my jw boyfriend and converted to marry him, which I did by 17. It was a nightmare marriage where I was so seriously abused and my life threatened that he was twice forcibly committed to mental institutions. Watch Tower doctrine dictates that remarriage is impossible unless one spouse can prove adultery against the other or if there is a confesson. I was badgered by the elders to remain in the marriage and given the choice of either stalking the man who was threatening to kill me or excepting the fact that he would stalk me.

  Unfortunately my family were also jws, and I was badgered by my own mother, and I made what was probably a false confession of adultery* just to keep my ex-husband from having one more second of influence over my life. In doing so, I was df'd and lost my home, most of my possessions, and my family.

  The Watch Tower truly is a cult, and even their recent literature encourages women to stay in abusive marriages. See the 2/15/12 Watchtower that will be studied this coming Sunday. Do whatever it takes to get your niece out, but do it correctly. Good luck!

  *This was more than 20 years ago, and I'm not positive when I started dating again.