its a similar question like the question who wrote the revelation. some think its john of the gospels, but the writing style and its grammar mistakes differs much from the gospels - so its propably another "john". some religions even see the revelation as a book that doesnt belong to the bible canon. what would make the book spiritistic to the JWs. but instead for them its truth that it is written by john and they spent a whole book of its contents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Authorship
Marcel
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Thousand and One things similar to things JW do
by Marcel insince i started "thinking" i see thousand and one things in life that fits to jws behaviour and which i never had seen before.
do you know the british movie "kick it like beckham"?
theres a indian girl, who plays soccer in a club.
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Marcel
exactly!
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Thousand and One things similar to things JW do
by Marcel insince i started "thinking" i see thousand and one things in life that fits to jws behaviour and which i never had seen before.
do you know the british movie "kick it like beckham"?
theres a indian girl, who plays soccer in a club.
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Marcel
Hi!
Since i started "thinking" i see thousand and one things in life that fits to JWs behaviour and which i NEVER had seen before.
Do you know the british movie "Kick It Like Beckham"? Theres a indian girl, who plays soccer in a club. Someone saw her hugging another girl (friendship) and told their parents. So she came home and everyone was upset, that she "kissed a boy" and plays soccer in a club. Even her sister blamed her that she cheats on her family. Every JW who watches that movie is on the girls side and thinks like: "what a terrible situation the girl is in".
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY SIMILARITIES WITH JWs!
Imagine a JW girl who kisses a worldy boy and plays soccer in a soccerclub.
Its truly possible, that other JWs see her and tell her parents (or the elders directly...) and shes in merely the same situation. Her family were angry on her, everyone would play the guilt-card and she gets serious talks about her being "worldy". Depending on the elders and parents both things she did were WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. The worldly boy and even the soccer club.
In fact almost the whole situation is VERY VERY VERY likely to the situation in the movie.
So, whats the funny fact about it? 99 out of 100 JWs wouldnt notice and think theyself are sooooo intelligent, modern and in the most loving religion existing.
That isnt the only thing i notice often. There are so many things in life which every JW would label as "wrong", when its done by other religions/beliefs, but is brightly GOOOOOOD when it happens within the congregation.
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Our Watchtower Study On obedience & submission
by dark angle inyesterday we have a study of the watchtower about obedience and submission.
this study arose a lot of questions and heightened emotions in me and the interested retired judge sitting besides me.
we came accross the 9th pharagraph, page 28 of the april 1, 2007, where it says that: "it is easy to obey when everything is clear and we agree, but we will show that we are trully submissive if we yeild even when we do not personally understand the direction provided.
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Marcel
when i was sitting in the congregation with this WT study i thought of the "hitler"-thing too, but i punished myself with guilt thinking that for some reason. and for a second i thought about telling it my wife, but i know that this comparison would be too hard. but even if i or others deny this information without thinking about it theres still a similarity.
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How do/did you imagine Armageddon will/would be?
by JH inand how do/did you imagine it would start.. i say, it would start a big cloud in the sky .
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Marcel
i never thought much about it. when i thought about it it looked like the paintings in jw magazines and quickly thinking about petting lions again... sometimes i doubted that i could stand such an cruel event.
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Brother/Sister X brings greetings ...
by Frequent_Fader_Miles indid you ever bring "imaginary" greetings to your home congregation after going on vacation, so it would look like you went to the meetings while you were away?.
i've never done this personally, but i've often wondered if others did..
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Marcel
never thought about that. lol. funny idea. i think its hard in most cases. either you were in holiday alone or everyone with you need to support you lieing... dont think this happens often.
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My email to the congo....
by truthsetsonefree innow that the time has past i can give up the surprise that i sprung on the elders before my da'ing announcement.
i emailed the entire congregation!
or at least as many addresses that i had which was most of those who use email.
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Marcel
nothing is productive to a JW if its against the JWs in any form. JWs are only productive when they're supporting the group.
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New Light Coming?
by dontomas inhi - i have jw friends (really!
) and have gone to kh for some talks and study every couple of weeks.
things like the new watchtower policy, selling buildings (i am from nyc and know the heights well - that will make a boatload of money), the sex abuse settlements, drop in membership and donations, and some of the changes i have seen in the magazine (the annointed qfr, for example).
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Marcel
1914 and blood policy. but it will take a while.
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now i'm even more confused...
by Missanna inok i started thinking tonight which is always a bad idea after i've had a long, really pressuring, day at work.
but i've been in this sort of confused uncomfortable state lately about whether i believe in god or not.
i finally got past the actual guilt of having these questions because i knew that was just what was drilled into my skull in my past.
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Marcel
if i believe in demons do i have to believe in god?
Missanna, thats exactly my biggest problem ever. Okay, i never experienced MYSELF something supernatural. But ive heard so many stories about it that its hard to not believe in it. Yours adds to that pile.
Sometimes im like going back to the dubs despite all my doubts, just because it drives me crazy.
i dont feel like searching for "another truth" for now, but evil spirits make me feel uncomfortable to being lazy.
May i ask, WHAT happened to your sister?
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Truly disgusting plead for cash in KM School this week
by MinisterAmos ini wish i had posted this earlier so you guys could have gone to school this week to check it out, but the km school was a long winded plea plea for cash donations, reminding us that "jehovah will be grateful".. how i wanted to raise my hand and ask if the great need was related to paying off the child molestors or ask what happened to the$100s of millions from the property sale, or ask why they needed money after kicking out all the bethelites (two booted bethel couples in the congo).
anyway you guys missed a good laugh.
if anyone wants i'll post the km magazine.
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Marcel
ive seen it too. in my kh there were A LOT of cash beggings the last months. almost every time i go the kh theres a talk about cash. the WTS needs cash seriously i guess.