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you have a PM
nj
my younger brother tried to kill himself today.
i am sick inside....sicker then i ever thought possible.
my mother told me the news in the cruelest of ways and i am now in a fog.. i blame the jw's and all the bullshit they put on children who are df.
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you have a PM
nj
this friday, we're having a pot luck at work before we all go on holidays for a week.
i hate pot luck, especially when it's at work.
i gave my wife heck for throwing out that open package of crackers that was sitting on top of the microwave for the last couple of months.
I'm glad I don't work with you
nj
When I grow up I.......want to travel, travel and more travel
nj
PS. Almost there my last will graduate June 2008 (sorry got a little happy thinking about that, carry on)
i've been df'd since march of 2007, haven't been to a kingdom hall since memorial, and haven't been to a regular meeting since about nov. 2006. .
my dad's whole side of the family cut me off, my one aunt and my grandma did completely.
my other aunt and my dad are having a harder time with it.
Try to look at it in a positive way (I know, I know that's hard) but just try.
Maybe he can't tolerate cutting you off and will ignore the df'd policy. Maybe he just loves you too much to not have you in his life. Maybe he's thinking of the future and possibility of grandchildren and he wants to be apart of that.
I say take what you can get while he's giving it, enjoy it and use this time to show him you are not the evil, immoral, drunken piece of shit that the WTBTS would like for him to believe you are. At the same time I understand that you have to protect your heart just in case he has something up his sleeve. But I think you know your dad well enough to spot any insincerities (?spelling). I know my mom and when she starts to be nice I know something is up just because she has never been nice. So, use your judgement and take it slow!
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Merry Christmas,
nj
Good morning Ian,
I'm up but not because I wanna be It's cold here no frost this morning but I think it's supposed to rain. I'm gonna finish my coffee and enjoy today. It's Friday, I'll be off from work until next Thursday so I can sleep late for the next couple of days. And instead of being the first one up, I can snuggle in next to hubby!
Have a great weekend and a Merry Christmas!
nj
this is the title of a new awake!
magazine.
(jan or feb 2008, not sure which).
Okay, I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about the bible, never have and never will. Don't ask me about scripture or passages cause I won't even pretend. There have been times, especially here on JWD that I've felt less than inadequate to join in discussions. But the more I learn and the more I hear statements like this makes me glad I don't believe in god or that the bible is inspired by god.
Yep just a bunch of old geezers making up $#!& and saying it from god. Just one big fat fairytale and not a very nice one at that :
Of course, the OT shows where the Israelites were to slaughter non-Israelite women and female babies. What about the concubine whose husband allowed her to be gangraped until she died, then cut up her body into 12 pieces. Or Lot offering his daughters to be raped, or Abraham and Isaac saying their wives were their sisters when other men wanted them for wives, to protect their own lives. Did God really give them permission or did they come up with this "custom" themselves and put God's name on it?
Thanks for that little gem above Blondie. How could anyone believe in the bible with crap like that? And if it did happen why would you want to serve, worship a diety that allows that?
nj
gee it has been quite a while since i have posted and been away from the board.
i am still very much alive and maybe kicking but just abit.. really though i wanted everyone of jwd to know that i will be thinking of you over the holiday season.
many of you have exchanged cards with me for several years.
OFC - I'm so glad to see a thread from you! I hope you have a Merry Christmas and that the New Year will bring you better health. You've been through alot this year and I truely hope that 2008 will be better.
Stay strong, keep in touch when you can and I'll be thinking of you over the Holidays!
nj
....anything at all??
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Ok, I tired and came up with absolutely NOTHING!
nj
whereas, on or about the night prior to christmas, there did occur at a certain improved piece of property (hereinafter "house" ) a general lack of stirring by all creatures therein, including, but not limited to, a mouse.
a variety of foot apparel, e.g., stockings, socks, etc., had been affixed by and around the chimney in said house in the hope and/or belief that st. nick a/k/a st. nicholas a/k/a santa claus (hereinafter "claus" ) would arrive sometime thereafter.
the minor residents, i.e., the children, of the aforementioned house were located in their individual beds and were engaged in nocturnal hallucinations, i.e., dreams, wherein visions of confectionary treats, including, but not limited to, candies, nuts and/or sugar plums, did dance, cavort and otherwise appear in said dreams.. .
That was nice risingeagle - made me smile and chill out a bit. My day has been very hectic and that made me take a minute and relax.
Thanks!! And I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas!
nj
i told my parents that do not want anything to do with jw's when i was 15, i stopped going to meeting (not that i was really going anyway), stopped going to assembly, even stopped the memorial.
at first it was guilt trips, crying, the whole what did we do wrong why are you doing this.
then the threats started, i will pull you out of public school and get rid of all your worldly friends that are a bad association, then it was well if you want to act like an adult then all you get is room and one meal a day we do not support those who turn their backs on jehovah.
Not as severe as what you experienced Andre. I tried to be a good little JW around the age of 8 because I thought that would make my mom proud of me, I was always trying to prove myself to her even after I left home. I just wanted her to love me, but I soon figured out that it wasn't going to happen so by age 10 or so I started rebelling big time. I would sleep until it was time to go to the meeting or whatever JW activity was scheduled, or come home just as it was time to leave. Many of days I went just as I was, meaning in whatever clothes I had on because my parents thought this would embarrass me into being on time and "looking presentable". I didn't care, jeans were more comfortable anyway but I spent a lot of time in the back room with the elders for that.
As I got into my teens sometimes I wouldn't come home and they would leave me and I'd get a beating when they got home. Again I didn't care about missing the meetings and especially field service, hell it was worth a beating. And as you already know at age 18 I left.
I will never understand why parents think it's so important for thier children to accept whatever religion or belief as they have. I don't believe in god or organized religion, but if my kids wanted to go to church I'd take them. As a matter of fact my youngest son went throught period where he wanted to go to church with one of his friends (I think he was on the prowl for girls though) anyway, I'd drop him off and pick him up or he'd stay at his friends house. He soon tired of it and would say things like "church is ok, but I don't want to go every Sunday and stay all day". He goes once in a while when his girlfriend is singing and she wants him to hear her.
Now, if they wanted to get involved in the JW's - I'd move mountains to keep them away! But after knowing of my childhood and seeing first hand how their grandparents are I don't think there is a chance in hell of that happening.
I hope you are moving on with life, it's hard sometimes to not think about our childhood and how we really didn't have a childhood. You know JW children are not children they are little publishers, you are not allowed to be a child. That's the dangerous part, because if you don't get out young you grow up physically but not mentally or emotionally and are unable to function or find it hard to function as an adult in the real world. I don't want to generalize but I think JW's who grow up in and stay in tend to be very naive about life in general. There are exceptions of course and I do think that anyone can adjust with time. It's just a shame to learn the thing you should have learned as a teenager at age 30.
I'm so happy that I never believed and got out young. My life has not been perfect by any means and there are things I'd go back and change if I could, but I think I turned out ok despite my JW background.
for all of us that grew up JW
nj