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  still resisting!

  by Kat_ in

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  this is my first time on a message board relating to anything jw.

  i haven't posted anything in the past because i still held to the fear that it would be betraying what i was taught, betraying my family, betraying god.

  this is precisely my life as it is now.

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  esther

  Kat, if you can put your information down in an unemotional way, keeping just to the factual points it might help.
  If you start a document of facts, putting each point down just as you think about it, you can keep adding to it until you feel you have enough points assembled. Maybe you can then put them into a logical manner in a letter to your mother, telling her how much you love and respect her, but... then mail it to her.
  I don't know your circumstances, but if you could manage to be away for a few days it could give her time to digest it. This might diffuse the situation.

  esther
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  still resisting!

  by Kat_ in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first time on a message board relating to anything jw.

  i haven't posted anything in the past because i still held to the fear that it would be betraying what i was taught, betraying my family, betraying god.

  this is precisely my life as it is now.

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  Kat, it was nice talking to you in chat. These are just my thoughts, but they may help you.
  If you tell your mother you will never go back, and why, she will be hurt and upset at first, and probably work on your guilt feelings as well, but she will start to accept it in time.
  She may never be able to accept your leaving, though, if you don't tell her, how you feel and why. She will just keep on hoping, and probably pushing, and because she has this hope. That is human nature.
  So, if the reason for not telling her is that you don't want to hurt her, just remember that it might cause her more hurt in the long run to leave her with false hopes.
  Hope this is some help to you

  esther
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  WTS books

  by esther in

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  i would would like to replace some of the money that being a jw cost me.

  so i would like to sell my books.

  has anyone any idea of the best way to do this?

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  Stephanus, thanks for your reply. I have the bound volumes and most other books printed since 1970, plus the reprints of the bound volumes of the Watchtower from 1950.

  I live in Brisbane, though.

  esther
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  WTS books

  by esther in

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  i would would like to replace some of the money that being a jw cost me.

  so i would like to sell my books.

  has anyone any idea of the best way to do this?

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  esther

  I would would like to replace some of the money that being a JW cost me. So I would like to sell my books. Has anyone any idea of the best way to do this?

  esther
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  3 meetings per week NOT FIVE!!!

  by sawthelight in

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  am i the only person ever to fall under the influence of the borg who can count?.

  no offence all but jws meet three times per week.not five!

  i consider the familiar statement about 5 meetings per week to be a good indication of just how indoctrinated a person is.

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  Hi Simon, we beat you with meetings. We were contacted overseas, so had the meetings in that language, and we also had the Watchtower study and the Book study in English.

  esther
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  3 meetings per week NOT FIVE!!!

  by sawthelight in

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  am i the only person ever to fall under the influence of the borg who can count?.

  no offence all but jws meet three times per week.not five!

  i consider the familiar statement about 5 meetings per week to be a good indication of just how indoctrinated a person is.

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  esther

  sawthelight, I considered it as 3 meetings a week, and when I left early, considered that I had stayed for half a meeting. Maybe they call it 5 meetings to try to get people to stay for the whole time. It is only one of the many things about the WTBTS that doesn't make sense, though.
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  Re : Did you help build a KH ????

  by ladonna in

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  i don't know about the rest of you but i was one of the stupid ones lugging bricks around and cleaning them up for the jw's shortly before i left.. how many others here have done the same???.

  how many of us have at one time been construction workers for the borg???.

  esther...you set my brain working on this one with your thread .

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  Yes, I helped to build 2, not quick build. We also renovated one. It was more fun than witnessing, of course, and we managed to do a bit of socialising at the same time.

  esther
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  advice needed--please respond

  by lisaBObeesa in

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  this is a question my df mother would like me to post for her:.

  would it be morally right to go back to the jws, even though she doesn't feel it is god's org?

  she would do this in order to speak with her life long friends and her youngest daughter, all of whom are quite emotionally distraught due to her dfing.

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  esther

  Hello LisaBObeesa's Mom. Lisa asked if it would be morally right to go back to the JWs even though you don't feel it is God's organisation. It is if you can put up with it. After all, you are going back to renew your relationship with your daughter and her children, and your friends.

  As far as having to lie is concerned, there are many examples in the bible of people who had God's blessing but who had to lie.

  What is morally wrong is for the organisation to put barriers up in your relationship with your daughter and grandchildren. They need you, and maybe, in time, they will also discover the truth about this organisation.

  I wish you well in your efforts, and hope everything turns out right for you

  esther
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  leaving Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jayhawk1 in

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  hello, my name is jeremy.

  i have been reading this forum for some time.

  i asked the elders, they said that i could grow the beard, so i did.

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  esther

  Hi Jeremy, welcome to the board. It is a great help in the recovery process.

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  I didn't make any true friends in the Congregation. The only friend I had was a "worldly" friend. Today we are still very close.

  While it was sad that you didn't have any friends in the congregation while you were a witness, it will have made it easier for you to leave. Good for you for having a "worldly" friend who is still a close friend. It is also good that your mother is out of the WTS.

  I am so sorry about your dad.

  esther
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  Losing Loved ones to Death While in the Org..

  by Roamingfeline in

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  did anyone lose beloved family members or friends to death while in the org?

  if so, how did you feel about it once you came out of the cult and figured out that everything you'd been taught about the new system coming soon, and loved ones being resurrected was a big fat lie you'd been spoonfed?

  how did you feel and react to that?.

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  I have only just read this thread, because I couldn't bear to read it earlier. I lost both my parents and my brother whilst I was a JW. The resurrection hope was what kept me in the organisation for so long, I think. Anyway, since I left, 3 months ago, I realised that I no longer believe in the resurrection. I felt as if I had lost them all for the second time, and had to go through the grieving process again. There are so many of you in this thread, so hugs to you all.

  esther