anyone fancy joining us for some?.
the sun's on its way down and we are celebrating life, family, happiness and the fact that we are free!!!!!!!!!!.
sam, paul, archie & bertie (of the 'skipped the memorial for three years now' class).
i was telling my fiancee (never a dub) about the memorial...she is curious...but I told her it was boring..and the crackers and wine were bland....
...she said she would bring some Cheez-Wiz and squeeze some on her emblems...... maybe squirt some on the rest as the plate passes by...
...and an umbrella for the wine....
she was serious.... LMAO. I love her and her twisted sense of humor.
Snakes (Rich )
most of us on here know that love bombing is a cult trait and many on here have said that they experienced it at the kingdom hall.
this might be a stupid question but maybe because i'm a born in the behavior seems normal to me and i don't notice it.
but how is it different than going to any other church where people introduce themselves to you?
dl..
let me answer that as someone who may as well have been born in. I was in from age 4 or 5 until age 40.
I didnt really notice it until I transferred from my second to last congo to my last congo. I had been a well known elder in the region, had even given public talks in this last congo. So when everyone heard I was moving into their congo, the love bombing started... invites to come over, dinner, lots of handshakes and "glad you are here."
The elders were on the same bandwagon... until they got my introduction letter and publisher card. When they found out (for certain, they had heard rumor and I never hid it) that I had been removed as an elder (rather than resigning as they requested) and would not be available to help take some of the work load off of them for a minimum of 3 years (non judicial removal....petty jealousy from the previous congo toward me), the elders in my new congo treated me as if I had leprosy. Their "love" cooled off quickly.... then as the word got from elders to their wives and into the gossip mill....
...all of a sudden the invites were not confirmed or reextended....I was never assigned to a book study even. Kingdom Ministry publication was difficult or impossible to come by.
Of course, this all worked out the way I planned and expected. It was the reason I did not resign as an elder. I forced their hand so they would have to delete me. I wanted to not be reappointed. I was planning my fade and the move was part of that careful plan.
You see... I had been "love bombed"..... until it was found I was not "part of the inner circle"....then the love bombing stopped..
Weird but predictable if you read on this board (as I had prior to this) the experiences of others.
Snakes (Rich )
1.they call themselves witnesses but they've never seen him.
jehovah.. 2. they call their religion the truth but it keeps changing.. 3. they are the only true religion.
even back when they taught things they now don't believe!.
so what are the JWs postdating their checks to now, 2014?
Snakes (Rich )
i have a problem.
my hubby and i are tying to fade out completely, but we ran into a snag.
my in-laws showed up with a stack of time slips and said that they will turn them in for us if we fill them out.
jordan12:
This comment is paradoxically a very honest admission of the commenter's untruthfulness and dishonesty and would be useful to bear in mind when evaluating how trustworthy his other posts are.
Attacking WTW is bogus. A lot of people do what they have to do to keep their family. As secretary I knew a lot of people were lying about their reports.... and I never hounded them to turn it in. Or those 1 hour reports .... I knew they were just turning in enough to keep themselves off the inactive/irregular list.
The cult forces this kind of untruthfulness. And encourages it in its members when it suits their purposes.
So jordan...get off your high horse.
Snakes (Rich )
1.they call themselves witnesses but they've never seen him.
jehovah.. 2. they call their religion the truth but it keeps changing.. 3. they are the only true religion.
even back when they taught things they now don't believe!.
In the Banking industry, NSF stands for No Sufficient Funds.... I say in this case ...
...it stands for No Spirituality Found...
Snakes (Rich )
information taken from the june 2010 awake.
my guesses for releases this year will be an update creation book and a book on jeremiah.
two books were released as recently as 2008 so i don't think this would be out of the question.. friday.
Audio Drama “Do Not Give Out When Corrected by Jehovah”
donuthole:
What's the difference between an audio drama and a regular one?
control. Think about it...no more long, time consuming rehearsals on the weekends... everyone gets to listen to the prerecorded program. No local twists (actual fire coming out of the altar, for example).....
edited to add...I see this is in addition to the regular drama on Sunday afternoon.... remember when there used to be more than one full costume drama?
...sounds like a good excuse to sleep/wonder around...
....oh wait... I dont go to those anymore...lol
Snakes (Rich )
anyone noticing any odd "more secretive-than-usual" type behavior among jws very recently?.
kind of like "somethings-up" mode?.
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yep...I noticed. JW mom is mum about most things dub. nope, dont care.
Dub at door: "Hi, my name is Sillie Stupid and this is my friend Wacky Witless. We are in the neighborhood wondering around at random hiding these pieces of paper under doormats and leaves at doors that are obviously never used inviting you to a pointless annual ritual. We were hoping no one would be home so we could just slip it under the doormat so you wouldnt find it until July. Here is your copy.... gotta run."
That is, if they are even bothering with door knocking these days....
Snakes (Rich )
i had a message left on my cell phone letting me know about the memorial on tuesday night.
it was some local elder whom i've never met.
i can only guess that he got my cell number from my oldest brother.. i found it rather condescending the way he actually described to me what the memorial was, as if i'd never attended one before.
I found one lying on the ground in the leaves at a house of one of my customer's. I am a bill collector, which do people hate to see more, JW's or bill collector cutting off their cable? I can tell you who gets more open doors...me. Invite is sitting on my desk, I want to show my non-JW fiancee what one of these wastes of paper looks like in case someone gives her one.
I personally have not received one. My JW mom asked and answered her own question when she talked to me on the phone. "I guess you aren't going to the Memorial this year." Very good.
Someone told me that both congos that meet in the KH in this town are meeting at the assembly hall in st. louis this year. That is dumb... I can see one of them going....9pm is pretty late for a meeting to start...and the AH is only 20 minutes away... unique opportunity for local yokels...might see some partakin'.... but how many "interested" people (aka, those who were guilted into going by JW relatives) are going to travel out of town for this?
No one has come to my house... good...stay away. I seen a bunch of dubs in field circus the other day...stop in the local QT (convience store/gas station) getting coffee... a few spoke... one hypocrite said he would like to see me at the meetings...and wants to call me (didnt give him my number...the house phone is listed)..but none invited me to their Waste of Time Reject Jesus Party. Word must have gotten out about me...
...that or they seen me buying lottery tickets....
Snakes (Rich )
if you discover, while getting to know a potential partner, that they have cheated on a previous partner........ don't touch them.
run run run.. in my opinion a cheat remains a cheat.
opportunity is the variable.. please discuss..
I think that blanket statement is bullshit. Sorry, I am not editing that one.
I will say this...if I cheated on my fiancee or she on me, it would likely be over...no second chances... and neither of us will do it. We love each other too much to risk our future together.
I have never been married. For two decades I had a friendship with a married JW and her JW MS husband. Her husband treated her like crap behind closed doors but was the life of the party at the KH. She started leaning on me for emotional support. I never ever encouraged her to leave him or have an affair. I always encouraged her to talk it out with him instead of me. With his knowledge and permission, we went out to lunch together in public, seperate cars; he was always welcome to come, but usually didnt. Sadly, when he was along, she shut down. Without him there, she was the same bubbly gal I have always known since she was a teen. I believe, as does she, that he cheated on her...but without proof, she is stuck as a JW to stay with him.
I also know that if we hadnt been careful there would have been an affair. She is very pretty. We talked about that danger...she wasnt having her sexual needs met.... and of course, I wasnt getting anything because I was a good little dubby elder. They had both been my friends when they were teens long before they dated. What we did was not an affair in the usual sense...but it may as well have been...it was an emotional affair. And just as wrong. Too bad she wasnt getting that support from her hubby.... I hope that she is being treated right now. Havent heard from them in many months now...nearly a year....
I have a great life now with my beautiful non JW fiancee... and I never would have had that if I hadnt left that JW life behind.
Snakes (Rich )
just ask our vice president joe biden.
once again, he has put his foot in his mouth by dropping the f-bomb when he shakes obama's hand.. granted... i'll take biden's "this is a big f*cking deal" over dick cheney's "go f*ck yourself" any day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqenikp1rj8.
havent figured out this helps me or especially my fiancee... we want to get married but if we do she loses her Medicaid..... she works full time...but her health insurance at work (which for the 3 of us..if we were married...would be $400/month)..... doesnt cover her preexisting condition (type 2 diabetes) for the first year.... so what good is it? Her 9YO is covered no matter in our state until age 9 based on our joint incomes at a subsidized rate.
I pay $195 (which went up $25 this month), with a $3,000 annual deductible... for myself only. The only real benefit I get is I get contracted rates and the insurance company knocks off the BS charges (ie, two charges for my initial exam... one for new patient exam and one for male age 40-45 exam....Aetna knocked the second one off and knocked the whole bill down from $500 to $122).
My dental plan pays very little because a) I dont use a plan doctor and b) it just pays little anyway. My dentist does not accept reduced insurance payments... she takes what they give her and bills me the rest.
I have started using the local community college's nurse managed clinic... $35 flat per visit... they can prescribe scrips... and lab work I go through econolabs.com.... pick the prescribed labs off the list, pay the charge with my visa...and get an invoice to take to a local national lab provider.... they take the samples.......and ship it off to their national lab......I got a CBC and another lab test for $43. They emailed me a PDF of the results in less than 24 hours.... and emailed or faxed copies to my doc and the clinic. GREAT service. I buy generics if I have to have prescriptions filled whenever possible... good thing I am in relative good health.
My fiancee hates being on medicaid... she feels badly for using it.... and the Medicaid docs generally give minimal care.... her dentist will pull an infected dead tooth but medicaid does not pay for bridges, braces, or implants... considered cosmetic. She is going to my dentist and will make payments for the uncovered work she needs (not wants...needs) done.
I dont think we need health insurance....we need health care.... Everyone should pay something into the system....and a basic level of care should be guaranteed.... this 3,000 page bill is only the first step...we are a long way from fixing this system.... I would gladly pay higher taxes if we were fully covered for preexisting and future conditions.
Snakes (Rich )
