Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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What Did You Do With Your WWW Money When You Left?

by mentallyfree31 in

question: when you awakened and discovered the truth about "da troof", what did you do with the www money in your service bag?.

i must confess: i took my apostate brother out to lunch and paid for it with my www stash.

i hadn't deposited my money in a long time, so there was about $30 in there.. .

SnakesInTheTower

it is why the society is selling off properties... their scam of the dubs paying for their literature at the counter on a "voluntary basis" and then offering it to the public the same way and donating that money to the WWW (world wide work) didnt work out so well for them... the society is lucky if the dubs cover the cost of printing, let alone shipping or associated costs of running the "Worldwide" but shrinking organization.

goodie...

Snakes (Rich )

ps... I quit donating for lit as I was awakening and figured they should pay me to take that crap let alone read it... and I never made the donation spiel at the door...the presentations were awkward enough without that pause met by silence when offering the "opportunity" to donate to the worldwide bible education work of jehoovers witlesses. gag...

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GB closing down and selling Central American Branches to be serviced out of Mexican Branch

by cattails in

the gb is closing down and selling all central american branches.

the congregations are to be serviced out of the mexican branch.. they end the letter by saying that aren't the congregations in the.

central american territory to be expecting great rejoicing since they'll.

SnakesInTheTower

excellent.

dgp:

Not to be mean to anyone, but I don't think the Catholic Church would ever buy a Kingdom Hall. Those are too simple buildings.

no...Catholics wouldn't...but KHs make excellent child care facilities... take out the chairs, wide open space for the kiddies to run... our old KH was converted to a day care and I know of several others too... appropriate since KHs are built to keep adults in a child like mental state...why not just house kids? lol

sacalton...I had forgotten about Anthony's blog about that news....wow was that a year ago? I need to PM him.... how ya doin' Anthony...PM me.

Snakes (Rich )

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How did you dispose of all those excess magazines?

by chicken little in

we were always told not to throw away literature, so just what did we do with it all?

i know that i would sneak it into the bin for recycling quite regularly.

my parents kept all the magazines for over 20 years in ritz boxes in a cupboard, they all went yellow and smelt wierd.

SnakesInTheTower

I remember one very elderly couple that studied with an older elder in the KH. I always thought it was a mere social call. These people were pack rats. I hesitate to go as far as hoarders. I did not think they were reading the magazines, even though they had subscriptions to both The Watchtower and Awake! magazines. But, how do you prove it without coming right out and asking? Since they were paying for the magazines, no real thought was ever given.

One day I was with the elder on the "study" and the elder asked the couple if they remember a certain article in the WT. Their memories were undoubtedly fuzzy, so the old husband says, "I have that magazine over here in the drawer, let me get it." The man hobbles over to a cabinet, opens a drawer, and inside were literally hundreds of magazines -- with their subscription mailer covers still on them. On the front of each one was neatly printed in shaky handwriting the exact date they receieved said magazine in the mail. It went from the mailbox to the drawer with only a brief stop for notation. Not once in many years had the magazines ever been opened let alone read.

I wonder what the old couple's kids thought when they cleaned out their parents house when they died? Trash bin I presume. This was before recycling was commonplace around here.

Oh yeah... the old couple never became witnesses, the elder stopped the study not long after that and the subscription was never renewed.

Weird where that memory came from.

Snakes (Rich )

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Has Anyone Gone Back to College Post 40?

by daringhart13 in

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i'm admitting to be very pissed off.....and bitter.

i'm sick of having no job security (i know its relative), but mostly because i did not go to college....... has anyone gone back to school post 40?

how was the experience?

SnakesInTheTower

I went back in 2004 at age 37... one of my first classes, and I was an elder when I started college, was a philosophy class in ethics....yeah....that opened my mind wide about the cult I was part of.... opened my mind really really wide....

In the end I earned 2 associates degrees (one in applied science [aka career degree] and one associate in science [transfer degree in business]) and graduated officially last week with honors (a 3.61 GPA) with 130 credit hours. (I should have had a Masters by now....eye roll).

Those degrees and $3 gets me a cup of coffee at Starbucks...but only if I get a regular venti....LOL

Good for you for going back.... my fiancee is going to finish the degree she started...then maybe I can go on to a BS (insert joke here) degree.

Snakes (Rich )

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-23-10 WT Study (RIGHTEOUS ONES)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 05-23-10 wt study (march 15, 2010, pages 19-23)(righteous ones).

review comments will be in red or headed by comments.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

SnakesInTheTower

blondie...

I am so glad you continue to post these. I am certain that it is helping a lot of current JWs lurking to see the ridiculousness of the teachings.

However, I can only stand to skim things now. I read your commentary and am amazed at your recall... but I find myself caring less and less about all things WT. I stay around the board for (and to provide) support.

Thanks for your hard work. It was a lot of your commentaries in my early days on the board that kept me thinking long enough to get the hell out.

(((blondie)))

Snakes (Rich )

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Aug 15 2010 WT - 3rd Study Article - Are they Serious!

by Simon Morley in

paragraph 17 states: "how should we respond when rumors about fellow believers are circulated by gods enemies?".

what about: "how we should respond when rumours about fellow believers are circulated by fellow believers?

my family was continually a victim of sewer level slander (not even gossip that resulted in murder - not physical but a character assassination.

SnakesInTheTower

I was the subject of vicious gossip. There was a single pioneer sister who I was good friends with. We never dated, though the subject came up in private conversations and we knew we would never be compatible. I have written about this experience elsewhere on this board, but dont have time to find it. Gossipers ruined our friendship.

That was in 1991. I felt bad for the sister, and there she is years later...and nearly 20 years later....she is probably 50 now....still pioneering, still single....I dont know how she can still be happy. She left the congo in 1991...moved out east (NJ) believe... then back to the midwest to the other side of her old circuit (IL6) and pioneers..... rarely visits her old KH....or her family in their hall nearby... .wonder why....as$wipes.

I wish she would have found her way out.... she had talent that went to waste for the Borg.

turning the other cheek only applies to YOU... never to the gossipers.

Snakes (Rich )

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November 2010 JW Campaign

by dozy in

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to be entitled "offering the bible - what is its message?".

possibly a tract or brochure - haven't had any other details yet.

maybe they are even going to offer the bible (now that would be a novelty!).

SnakesInTheTower

yknot:

They know many of us ain't really placing the WT/GA,

lmao...now I know you were in awhile if you use the nmonic "GA" for Awake! ...which on literature forms and inside the magazine would appear as ga! then later on as just g!. Harkening back to the old pre-Awake! days when it was Golden Age

As for these campaigns, good catch WTW...they are straddling months and I believe for the same reasons you outlined.

Again...sooooo glad I dont have to do that crap anymore...

Snakes (Rich )

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Circ. Ass. Last Weekend...oh boy!

by tresdecu in

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so i had to suffer through the ca last weekend, it was rough at 1st, i was actually sick to my stomach the night before, fortunately my little boy kept me occupied during the session and i got to walk around a lot.. the do cracked down on 'true christians' watching vampire movies aka....twilight.

i know this series is hugely popular with a lot of teens and 20somthings, even a young elder and his wife (mostly the wife) are really into them.. he said true christians just don't watch such things.

haha.

SnakesInTheTower

elgiard:

Also the PO said that we shouldn't watch anything rated PG because that stood for "pure garbage".

LMAO....that brings back memories... not good ones..... that has gone around in talks for eons. I even got myself into that trap when I used to give the "Satan" talk on sundays (i.e., "Beware of the Snares of the Devil" or some such sh*t). After the meeting, a young couple approached me and said that their bible study that was sitting with them was offended that I was so judgemental and didnt think I should joke around. The bible study never returned. At the time I felt bad and apologized. I never used that "pure garbage" tidbit again.

Now, I know I did that bible study a huge favor. I scared them away from the cult.

I am so glad I no longer have to deliver or listen to that drivel anyway.

Snakes (Rich )

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Watchtower suppresses critical video

by besty in

as many of you know the active jehovah's witness known as v has a youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/wtcomments .

v has 27 videos and 1000 subscribers on his channel and over 200,000 views so far.

his most recent video is a satirical expose of the most recent generation doctrine change.

SnakesInTheTower

Before I was removed as an elder Dec 2006, I was a public talk coordinator in the congo. Yes, the public talks now come with a © notice on the bottom of each page.

I applaud and support V's videos and hope V continues to expose WTBT&S for what it is: a business and a cult masquerading as a religion. (As a side note, I dont think any religion should receive tax-exempt status for anything other than services that would otherwise be provided for by the government.)

However, V may have to be careful on that particular video because, from what I remember, that is an actual scan of the outline. I don't remember if the outline had the copyright symbol on it or not or if it was a pre-production copy that was leaked. You can be certain that WT is going to be more diligent about this going forward. If so, then pictures, videos, etc of them will be infringement... and not subject to "Fair Use" exemptions. Now, if someone were to take detailed notes and transcribe them....well...maybe that is a way around it.

Now, commentary on said outline...well...that is always open... so just take out the copy of the outline and voila.... back in business... but make sure that in its place they put a copy of the YouTube notification of the WT request for removal... maybe it will start putting seeds of doubt in the minds of the JWs that are obviously looking at non-WT sanctioned videos...

Snakes (Rich )

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You may have forgotten about me but here's my update

by doublelife in

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it's been a while since i've posted because i've been so busy looking for a full-time job so that i could leave my husband.

well, i've finally got one today.

actually, it's the same job i've had for about a year but someone else just put in their notice to quit so my manager finally gave me full-time status.

SnakesInTheTower

doublelife..

Thought I do want to clear up that he's not physically abusive, but he is emotionally

in discussions I have had with women who confided in me that have been both physically and emotionally abused by their husbands, some (not all) have expressed that emotional abuse is harder to take.... i..e., physical abuse -- people can see the marks... and the marks usually heal.... but emotional abuse no one sees any marks... and the pschyological damage often takes a long time, if ever, to heal.

glad to see you are making positive steps out of that situation....

The question is rhetorical, but: Why do people abuse their spouse? I dont get it. (usually we speak of men abusing women, but it can be reverse). Either you love them or not. Call me naive (I'll say it: "Snakes, you are naive").

I would never intentionally hurt my fiancee. I have, at times, said things that were hurtful...never intentionally...but still did it and so has she..thats human nature. How we deal with it afterwards determines the kind of partner and human being we are.

I would never hit my fiancee or her son. I love them both too much for that. So when I see other guys (esp) doing that to their wive/partner... I get very very angry. I guess we do not know what goes on behind closed doors and inside people's heads.

..sigh.... good luck to you as you move forward in your journey to a new life.

Snakes (Rich )