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  Arcticle on JW Shunning

  by Shepherd Book in

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  i wrote an article about watchtower-sanctioned shunning for next month's issue of minnesota atheist.

  since most of you probably aren't subscribers, you can read it here:.

  http://mnatheists.org/.

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  Alpaca

  Thanks S.B. a very succinct summary.

  BTW did you catch thread with the dubisms that called shunning the "Dub Snub"???
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  Has anyone lost a friend or known of someone who committed suicide over BORG-induced guilt?

  by Alpaca in

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  i am not going to use any names for this because i don't want to cause potential hurt to anyone.. there was a very nice family in my congregation when i was a teenager.

  step-dad, mom, and her 4 kids.

  the dad became an elder, had a great business, the mom spent lots of time with the kids.

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  Alpaca

  Quirks,

  You are a funny guy and I love your posts...but this is a very sensitive subject that has caused a lot of pain.

  Nuf said???

  Thanks for being understanding.

  Undercover and Blondie,

  I agree with your observations. In the time period when my friend committed suicide there was a very anti-mental health attitude in the BORG--as if you could pray your way to sanity.

  And, you are right ...who knows how many people could have gotten the appropriate help they needed. It's blood on the BORG's hands as far as I am concerned
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  Happy to finally join the family

  by JustWantTruth in

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  so wonderful to finally be able to communicate with you all.

  like lurk3r mentioned, i feel like i have known you all for so long.

  first, off i would like to say to leolaia you are my idol, and i would love to just sit with you and pick your brain about a variety of topics.

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  Alpaca

  Welcome.

  This is good place to heal.
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  Hello everyone

  by african GB Member in

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  i am african gb member, i have just joined, looking forward to contributing to discussions on this forum.. .

  thank you in advance for welcoming me on board.. african gb member.

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  Alpaca

  Thanks for joining the party.
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  WELCOME, ALL NEW ONES!!!

  by minimus in

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  i hope you enjoy this place as much as we do!

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  Alpaca

  Here, Here ...I second fifth the motion!!!!
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  Dubs and homeschooling-- coud the BORG begin promoting it for more thought control?

  by Alpaca in

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  do you guys think the borg will begin to encourage more home schooling of dub kids as a means to control independent thinking?

  that's what other fundies do to keep their kids from being exposed to the evils of evolution.. most dub kids who attend public schools (especially the really smart ones) will get at least a modest exposure to critical thinking in their science and literature classes.. with all of the weird changes and tightening of the screws on the dubs being able to think for themselves i could easily see the borg "suggesting" that parents "prayerfully consider" the "spiritual advantages" to schooling their kids at home.

  then they would go into a discussion of how the ancient israelites did not have formal schools for their children but it was the parents responsibility to teach them....blah, blah, blah..... when i was still in the borg there were lots of kids who were home schooled and at one point a bunch of dubs from 5 or 6 congregations actually started their own school.

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  Alpaca

  Blondie,

  That was the line I remember.

  Thanks,

  Alex
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  Could the Governing Body find their butts in the dark?

  by JimmyPage in

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  ... with a flashlight and a map to guide them?

  maybe that's a rhetorical question..

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  Alpaca

  Not even if they were sitting on their hands!!!
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  Dubs and homeschooling-- coud the BORG begin promoting it for more thought control?

  by Alpaca in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you guys think the borg will begin to encourage more home schooling of dub kids as a means to control independent thinking?

  that's what other fundies do to keep their kids from being exposed to the evils of evolution.. most dub kids who attend public schools (especially the really smart ones) will get at least a modest exposure to critical thinking in their science and literature classes.. with all of the weird changes and tightening of the screws on the dubs being able to think for themselves i could easily see the borg "suggesting" that parents "prayerfully consider" the "spiritual advantages" to schooling their kids at home.

  then they would go into a discussion of how the ancient israelites did not have formal schools for their children but it was the parents responsibility to teach them....blah, blah, blah..... when i was still in the borg there were lots of kids who were home schooled and at one point a bunch of dubs from 5 or 6 congregations actually started their own school.

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  Alpaca

  Sorry, the posting thingamajiggy is acting weird...making double posts
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  Dubs and homeschooling-- coud the BORG begin promoting it for more thought control?

  by Alpaca in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you guys think the borg will begin to encourage more home schooling of dub kids as a means to control independent thinking?

  that's what other fundies do to keep their kids from being exposed to the evils of evolution.. most dub kids who attend public schools (especially the really smart ones) will get at least a modest exposure to critical thinking in their science and literature classes.. with all of the weird changes and tightening of the screws on the dubs being able to think for themselves i could easily see the borg "suggesting" that parents "prayerfully consider" the "spiritual advantages" to schooling their kids at home.

  then they would go into a discussion of how the ancient israelites did not have formal schools for their children but it was the parents responsibility to teach them....blah, blah, blah..... when i was still in the borg there were lots of kids who were home schooled and at one point a bunch of dubs from 5 or 6 congregations actually started their own school.

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  Alpaca

  So, what do you think Blondie?

  Thats 12 years ago and since they have been cracking down hard on higher education recently I could see that attitude spilling over into K-12.

  Plus, wasn't it around that time that sort of lightened up, saying that some higher ed was acceptable if it was done with spiritual goals in mind to get a job that paid enough to support oneself while pioneering?

  They are just getting so insular. The BORG has changed a lot since I left.
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  I Get to Witness About the Witnesses......

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  for those unaware, this sunday marked the 2nd week i have attended a local unitarian/universalist service.

  i have given them a try because i no longer feel that isolating myself from people is good for me.

  also, they are creed-less, dogma-less, and liberal.

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  Alpaca

  Good stuff!!!