Posts by Alpaca

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Has anyone lost a friend or known of someone who committed suicide over BORG-induced guilt?

by Alpaca in

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i am not going to use any names for this because i don't want to cause potential hurt to anyone.. there was a very nice family in my congregation when i was a teenager.

step-dad, mom, and her 4 kids.

the dad became an elder, had a great business, the mom spent lots of time with the kids.

Alpaca

VS77

Thanks for sharing your feelings. It will get better.

The BORG and its minions are true experts at grinding down people's self esteem.

That's why so many people end up feeling unworthy and in utter dispair.

You have a PM

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Most religious groups in USA have lost ground, survey finds

by Elsewhere in

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-03-09-american-religion-aris_n.htm.

most religious groups in usa have lost ground, survey finds.

by cathy lynn grossman, usa todaywhen it comes to religion, the usa is now land of the freelancers.the percentage.

Alpaca

Somehow, I don't think the BORG is picking up any of the defectors.

Whadayathink???

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i have been reading your posts the last couple of weeks and wanted to post and talk to all of you and at last i can.. first i am (or was)a unbaptised publisher but have jw daughter (really into it)and jw granddaughters and df son in law(for smoking).. i studied for 2 yrs and tried field service(hated hated hated it).anyway reading your posts helped me to make the decison that.

i just couldn't go on going to meetings even to be with my grandchildren(who i love dearly)and living a lie.

i believe jw's are a cult and the.

Alpaca

Glad you're along for the ride, Nana.

Welcome.

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Has anyone lost a friend or known of someone who committed suicide over BORG-induced guilt?

by Alpaca in

jw
friends

i am not going to use any names for this because i don't want to cause potential hurt to anyone.. there was a very nice family in my congregation when i was a teenager.

step-dad, mom, and her 4 kids.

the dad became an elder, had a great business, the mom spent lots of time with the kids.

Alpaca

Thanks, Baba...very sad.

Dagney,

Thanks for sharing the story. Do you think it was guilty feelings that drove them to it?

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Evolution explained

by rebel8 in

difference between scientific laws, hypotheses, and theories: http://wilstar.com/theories.htm.

hypothesis: this is an educated guess based upon observation.

it is a rational explanation of a single event or phenomenon based upon what is observed, but which has not been proved.

Alpaca

It's all about being intellectually honest with ourselves.

For many, to accept the overwhelming evidence for evolutionary processes that have been at work on the earth for 2.5 billion years, raises the horrifying possibility that maybe we were not specially created, maybe this is all there is, maybe there is no life after death, no heaven or hell.

In fact maybe there is nothing so special about humans...we just happened to end up the top dogs with the big brains during the last geologic blink.

Even considering the possibilities is so scary for many people they prefer to do the whole ostrich head-in-the-sand exercise.

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Has anyone lost a friend or known of someone who committed suicide over BORG-induced guilt?

by Alpaca in

jw
friends

i am not going to use any names for this because i don't want to cause potential hurt to anyone.. there was a very nice family in my congregation when i was a teenager.

step-dad, mom, and her 4 kids.

the dad became an elder, had a great business, the mom spent lots of time with the kids.

Alpaca

No problem, Quirks. Thanks.

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Arcticle on JW Shunning

by Shepherd Book in

i wrote an article about watchtower-sanctioned shunning for next month's issue of minnesota atheist.

since most of you probably aren't subscribers, you can read it here:.

http://mnatheists.org/.

Alpaca

It's a thread I started but someone else came up with the Dub Snub. There is some very funny stuff on the thread. You might want to BTTT if think it's funny enough to share with all of the newbs who are on here today.

Here it is:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/158185/1/Spiritual-food-3d-Dub-grub-whadayathink

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Have You Ever Been "Too Late"?

by compound complex in

in the recent past i have recalled many kindnesses shown me as a younger man.

i probably said "thank you" at the time of a person's single kind gesture or act [polite thank yous were expected of 50s children]; some older people have acted on my behalf, however, over a period of time in ways that shaped me in a favorable way.

i couldn't have been aware at the time that their nurturing or mentoring me would have such far-reaching results.. several years ago it occurred to me how instrumental an older person's generosity toward me as a child put me where i am today.

Alpaca

I agree.

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Thanks and Who Am I...

by trebor in

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first thanks to all for this board and forum and all the stories, information and thoughts that are shared.

i have been a lurker now for almost a year, and now that newbies can get on board, here i am.. here's my story.

baptized at 15 and made ministerial servant by 19. my father, mother, siblings and entire side of my mother's family are jehovah's witnesses.

Alpaca

Very brave of you guys. Good for you.

Welcome to the board.

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Arcticle on JW Shunning

by Shepherd Book in

i wrote an article about watchtower-sanctioned shunning for next month's issue of minnesota atheist.

since most of you probably aren't subscribers, you can read it here:.

http://mnatheists.org/.

Alpaca

Thanks S.B. a very succinct summary.

BTW did you catch thread with the dubisms that called shunning the "Dub Snub"???