The word Numinous can mean "wholly other". After my experience with the witnesses, I told myself I would never again put all my eggs in one basket. I didn't want to fit a label and everything I learned would be put on the back burner with the freedom to look at it again whenever I wanted. Carl Jung used the word to describe feelings during a supernatural experience, a bit of mystery is in the word and it fits my life as it is now.
Numinous
JoinedPosts by Numinous
-
71
How'd you pick your Avatar and/or Username? (Share a little bio?)
by Open mind ineven though you might think it's painfully obvious, explain why you chose your avatar and/or username.
it could help us faceless "netizens" get to know each other a little better.
open mind.
-
-
-
44
Counting Time
by Xena ini don't know about anyone else but this could be the source of major contention between dubs in my halls.
you had those who started their time as soon as you pulled out of the hall parking lot (me), those who counted from the first knock at the door or laundry mat visited, and the die hards who didn't start until they actually spoke to someone(my sister).
my sister and i would go round and round about this, i finally just pretended to start my time when she did just to shut her up.
-
-
Numinous
I would ask myself: "What elso would/could I be doing now?" If it didn't fit into this category, I counted my time. I felt like a beaten horse if I were to be so exacting, like my time in this life wasn't worth anything. I had already spent 5-7 hours on meetings, plus getting ready for meetings, work, the house...the most exhausting religion in the world now wants me to feel guilty about how I counted my time. Exasperating.
-
26
Happy are those who are shunned!
by Gill inhappy are the shunned, since they will have peace and quiet!!!
truer words were never spoken.. for all of you who understandably miss your family, just think of the troubles those of us have to endure when some of our jw family refuse to shun us and make it their lifes work to 'encourage' your return to the cult with threats of imminent death by their ever loving god!.
my mother!
-
-
Numinous
My good friend's mother died about a year after I got DFed and I sent a sympathy card with a small note about my life being PEACEFUL. I could imagine that word and the implications of it on someone really, without peace. It's funny that they should think we are "receiving our reward in full" and "only thinking we are happy"--there are more witnesses diagnosed for depression and mental illness than any other religion because when you go to the hall you imagine you are the only one not living up to the standards...right up till the day it hits you that it is all just people.
-
46
Why did they not try to 'Save' me?
by AK - Jeff ini have pondered this question on many occasions.
when i began to have 'doubts' and began to 'question' some doctrine, and particularly the lack of christian love, very little effort was made to 'snatch me out of the fire' as elders are admonished to do.
i have always wondered why we as jw's would spend countless hours trying to start bible studies with 'wordly' people, while at the same time ignoring those who are moving away from dead center of the organization.
-
-
Numinous
It is amazing to me that someone can be in for 20 years and have what I believed to be 100s of "friends", and have elders too afraid of me to see me face to face. DFed for "causing divisions" as so many knew of how I felt, which, of course, cemented my feelings of having done the right thing by talking with them. I was the consummate witness. I felt I had more love for humanity than God. Now THERE'S a problem. I felt that those who were the cruelest to me were ones who resented me because they felt the same way but didn't have the guts to make the same decision. There are two groups, ones who are sincerely trying to do the right thing, and ones who are extremely religious out of guilt from their lives and feel the need to be self-righteous. Leaving will show the true colors of all those who you believe to be your friends.
-
40
Would you have married a non JW
by JH inwhen you were a good active jw, would you have considered marrying a non jw or was this completely out of the question..
-
-
Numinous
People need someone who really understands them if they are thinking of marriage. I can understand the problems that can come from having a husband not support you, arguing about raising the kids...but once a person quits the organization they may still feel they need someone who knows how they feel about such a big part of their lives. I have been out since Oct. 2001 and am happy to have that one person who helped take me to where I am now and who has read more on this discussion forum and the subject of witnesses than I have...what a blessing it is, but would I ever marry or have a close relationship with someone who doesn't understand what happened? Eventually.
-
59
Another Tattoo Thread-To ink or not to ink - that was the question
by Crumpet into ink or not to ink that was the question!.
the build up.
i was really excited about it and got up early to salute to the sun, cat to the ceiling and baby to the carpet (yoga).
-
-
Numinous
You are awesome Crumpet. So cool that you designed your own with such great symbolism. Good for you!
-
57
MY OBSERVATIONS FROM THE MEMORIAL TONIGHT (just got home)
by Mary inwell, as per usual, the memorial talk bored the hell out of me, but i found it, in one way to be an improvement over last years when they had the most boring speaker on the planet there http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/111544/1.ashx this guy at least knew how to speak.
unfortunately, he didn't have much of a script to work with.. there was the mention of adam sinning and mankind needing a redeemer etc., no mention of when the israelites left egypt though.
that's probably the first year i've ever seen where this hasn't been mentioned.
-
-
Numinous
THE FIRST MEMORIAL AFTER I QUIT I SPENT AN HOUR PULLING A MELTED TURKEY OUT OF A RAINBARREL (I PUT IT OUT THERE IN THE WINTER BECAUSE THE FREEZER WAS FULL), THEN TRYING TO SET IT UP SO IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS READING A WATCHTOWER. I CROSSED IT'S LEGS, STUCK TOOTHPICKS THROUGH THE WT ONTO IT'S LITTLE "HANDS"...MAN...THAT JUST SAID IT ALL FOR ME. A HEADLESS TURKEY. THE IDEA WAS TO PUT IT ON THE KINGDOM HALL SIGN, BUT "FEAR OF MAN" GOT TO ME. TOO BAD.
MY MOST MEMORABLE MEMORIAL (REDUNDANT?) WOULD BE WHEN I WENT TO NEW YORK TO VISIT BETHEL AND THERE WAS A BABY SUCKING ON A BOTTLE REALLY LOUD BEHIND ME, A FUNNY LOOK FROM A TEENAGE BOY THAT THOUGHT THAT SOUND WAS FUNNY, AND MY SPENDING SERIOUS TIME TRYING NOT TO LAUGH AT THE JUXTAPOSION OF THE TWO...SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION!!!
-
59
"You'll never even get to finish school in this System of Things....."
by WingCommander inthis statement was often echeod to me during my formative years.
i remember my very first day of elementary school (stateside) at the age of 4. my parents were flustered because they couldn't believe they actually had to start their only child into public school to begin with; after all, the end was right around the corner!
this was 1984, the year the first apple mac was introduced, 80's music was loud and in your face, the delorean was cool, and miami vice was just in production.
-
-
Numinous
Maybe it isn't school so much as thinking for oneself, developing deductive reasoning, and, of course, the "bad association" AKA realizing that those worldly people are lovable and interesting and not all that worthy of getting blown away. So many of these kids at the hall were so socially retarded, along with being "home schooled"---by themselves to be sure---years later through the grapevine I hear of them staying home trying to figure out how to work the can opener. Meanwhile, those who did go on to get a degree were held in high esteem at the hall, as yes, troubled mind, I think the society would like the rank and file to make a few more dollars to contribute to that donation arrangement.
-
44
Is it wrong?
by Frannie Banannie inis it wrong to give people hope when they've been diagnosed with an illness that can lead to much pain and death if not treated successfully?.
i ask this because i just got a pm from an angry poster over my posting the following link and info on an antibiotic that bbc carried the news in regard to and was being researched by camcer research uk: http://www.rense.com/general58/anti.htm.
also, i noticed that mary replied with this link to yet another site that showed a study at a university in canada had turned up another cheap, safe drug that kills cancer cells: http://www.wanderings.net/notebook/main/cheapsafedrugkillsmostcancers.
-
-
Numinous
Just a suggestion, Lorraine Day has a common sense approach that would be my first choice in treatment as it has been proven to work consistantly. I believe there is always hope, but then, death isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be.
-
4
New duds for the Assembly/Convention
by gcc2k inmy wife seems to break out new outfits for her and the kids at these events.
i get the idea when someone is single (sisters are "fellowshopping" - always loved that term).
old habits die hard, perhaps?
-
-
Numinous
As a heterosexual woman, and I know I am not alone in this, I looked forward to what was going to happen next on the runway of Memorial night and conventions. Clothing is the last vestige of individuality left for so many of these women, and really, these occasions were an excuse to go all out...right up till the time your husband becomes and elder and...oh. That's another story...