The Bible is the instruction manual in oppression for both men and women. The idea of having your wife do everything that you don't want to do plus do things she DOESN'T want to do...pretty appealing. At one point, after many years of going through the motions, I told my husband I felt like a whore. Not even a paid whore. And that "slave" thing they are so proud of is really the same situation, only the WT is the bad husband. It is a life of drudgery and unhappiness if the woman has a self-centered husband. Very few marriages were happy and some wives seemed the type that would do anything to be "taken care of". That whole situation just makes me gag.
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what's in it for the women???
by chelsea ini have often wondered what's in it for the women???
i just read the story of minimus and it is so clear that such power and privilege on offer to males in the borg would be enticing and probably addictive... but the women will never have such offers or opportunities.
they will always be required to be in subjection.
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The Story of Minimus
by minimus inwhen i was a teen, i aspired to be an elder.
from my pre-teens until i was 18, i was in every circuit assembly and district convention----having either ministry school talks or parts or experiences.
at 20, i conducted a bookstudy in the afternoon, also regular pioneered, was the theocratic ministry school overseer in the 2nd school and regularly taught the main school.
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My ex husband had been an elder also. At 24, only a few weeks after being appointed, he had to deal with two cases where each were DFed. Within days of his cousin's hearing, his cousin hung himself in a deer blind. The other waited a whole two weeks before killing himself. That one was an elder's son from a different congregation. Almost all of the elders in our congregation had gone to help on a hall build and left my husband behind to back up any problems that should come up. Of course I didn't know that he was on his judicial committee until a few nights before he left here never to return. He was sitting in the dark in the front room drinking till he was throwing up and it was everything he could do to tell me how this affected him. I do wonder how many other elders out there are suffering way deep down in their souls about a decision that was made in a hearing.
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What does the term "borg" mean?
by mtsgrad inwhat does the term "borg" mean?
i have heard it so many times here!.
mtsgrad.
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Those who came into contact with the Borg and had no defense were sucked in and eventually "assimulated". The perfect nickname.
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Any news on legal custody issues?
by Numinous inthere is an exsister in town, remarried, with three children from her previous marriage to an elder in this hall.
for some reason he believes he can win in a case around the children attending all of the meetings, service, etc.
along with not allowing the children to participate in holidays.
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Thank you very much Madame Quixote! I am doing this a little long-distance, but we appreciate it. Hopefully she will come on board soon and supply some details.
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Any news on legal custody issues?
by Numinous inthere is an exsister in town, remarried, with three children from her previous marriage to an elder in this hall.
for some reason he believes he can win in a case around the children attending all of the meetings, service, etc.
along with not allowing the children to participate in holidays.
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There is an exsister in town, remarried, with three children from her previous marriage to an elder in this hall. For some reason he believes he can win in a case around the children attending all of the meetings, service, etc. along with not allowing the children to participate in holidays. At this time, they have joint custody, and, I would imagine any time that is taken away from the mother with the children would have to be made up, meaning, in a weeks time she would be getting practically another day per week. The girl with all the inside information is trying to log on here and having problems, so I thought I would just start it up for her. Any ideas or links?
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What Was Your Social Life Like As A Witness?
by minimus inmy (ex)wife and i asssociated with a few other couples and was considered "popular".
how was your social life?
did you have much of one?
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In my experience, if you are not outgoing in this religion you will be relying on the content of the meetings for entertainment. Good luck with that right? There were some who said the meetings were their social life, or the service they considered their social life because all of the obligations of being a witness took up so much of their time. The elder/servant/married rank has a better social life, but their were so many in our congregation and others that were so strange that I couldn't imagine spending any of my free time with them, but those interesting characters were memorable and really lovable once I got to know them better.
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Does Being A Jehovahs Witness Lead To Disorders?
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-size: 18px; font-family: arial; } .style3 { font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; } .style4 { font-size: 12px; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; } .style5 {color: #ff0000} .style6 {font-size: 12px; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-style: italic; } --> does being a jehovahs witness lead to disorders?the life of being one of jehovahs witnesses was a challenging one at best .
and an agonizing one at worst.
i recall the days of my black depression .
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There is a tendancy to be obcessive compulsive when there is a lack of control in one's life. Even the Bible says that the one overly oppressed will act crazy. When we put off living for today, in a life of misery, for a reward tomorrow, it goes against the nature of the human being.
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What Was Your Mindset Like When You Were Disfellowshiped?
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-family: arial; font-size: 18px; } .style3 { font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; } .style4 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } .style5 {color: #0000ff} .style6 {color: #000000} --> what was your mindset like when you were disfellowshiped?recalling the day, i wrote the watchtower society to tell them that they were disfellowshiped .
as an organization for conduct unbecoming a christian organization was one of mixed feelings .
it was a sad heart wrenching reality that fourteen years of my life in this organization had finally .
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I really believed that this god Jehovah rejected me. I felt it was blasphemous to feel that I had more love for humanity than he did, but that is the actual truth behind why I left. The sickening loneliness...like out of all the people on earth who have ever lived, everybody has a chance at life except for me. This was so very profound in it's sadness for me because I loved me. How could it be that I, a creation of this god, could have a greater capacity for love than the god who made me? These, ironically, were the very words I used to help my elder husband who never got reproved or DFed because he just moved out of the situation. I told him that if I could still love him, surely god could. My heart went out for someone in pain for what they were going through emotionally. Why couldn't god have any understanding? Looking back, I did absolutely nothing wrong. I had a friend who was a man and this was 2 1/2 years after my divorce. My Dfing was on a principle of the one flesh even though I never, nor did they ask, had sex with this man... I must say though, that one of the reasons I come here is for that comraderie of fellow feeling that only someone else in this position of profound, unbearable numbness can understand. Today I am very well adjusted, truly happy and want very much to help other people in some way.
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Happy New Year! 80 million more "wicked" ones added to the bird food pile.
by Open mind inwhat is the net effect of every year that our loving god jehovah, who is patient and desires "none to be destroyed", holds back the winds of destruction?
it ultimately results in roughly 80 million more humans to be added to the pile of post-armageddon bird food.
i've read this concept several times before on jwd but decided to do a little googling to get the 80 million number.
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An excellent point to be made regarding population growth worldwide and the growth of the witnesses. They pray for the end because for them that's when their life will start. Who will be a last baby born who will have to die right away because neither mom or day answered the door that one day? The witnesses certainly wouldn't agree to abortions or partial birth abortions, but a full life abortion is just fine if the parents don't get with the program right away. "Jehovah" does make Hitler look like Little Bo Peep!
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A friend of mine went on widipedia right after the news of his death and someone wrote up a paragraph already about how he was burning in hell right now for all his sins against the Lord Almighty and true Christians...Then they told me this was erased about an hour later and some perfunctory compliments were thrown in instead...kinda funny.