misocup
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Ted Haggard Defends Bishop Eddie Long. OH THE IRONY!!!!
by whereami inreligion...the biggest hypocrisy mankind has ever practiced.. .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa6mvcj_dhu.
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Update on my JC hearing...received the expected news
by SweetBabyCheezits inin case anyone's interested but unaware of my family's case up to this point, here's the original thread:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/198852/5/sbcheezits-judicial-hearing-my-epic-fail-repost-for-ie-users.
so the elders requested a follow-up meeting last week but we were unable to meet at their set time and told them as much.
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misocup
A manifesto is a public declaration of principles and intentions, often political in nature. Manifestos relating to religious belief are generally referred to as a creed. Manifestos may also be life stance-related.
Leave it at manifesto.
Most people probably relate the word 'manifesto' with the Unabomber. The Unabomber was of course the crazed lunatic who bombed people and places for no reason for more than 20 years. Most people probably don't know that Ted K. was unknowingly part of a cruel, CIA sponsored, LSD mind control experiment as a student at Harvard.
While I am certain that Cheezits has not become Unabomber part 2, I do fully understand the quiet agony and feelings of powerlessness being DF'd brings.
What I would like to know is if anyone has ever tried a case like this in US court on the grounds it violates the persons freedom of speech rights. How many of us are fearful, because of what we say in here, of our true identities being discovered. Does the WTS have the authority to threaten people in such a way? To really levy punishment against a person for having an opinion contrary to theirs?
Fear of losing family because you disagree with an opinion. Why should they have such power, and how can it be taken away.
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Why are some treated so kindly and others so badly in the JW world?
by life is to short inok i am still in good standing in the jw world for whatever reason i still do not understand.
i get shunned and then i get love bombed by others?
it is all very confusing.. ok so i was talking to this sister a couple of days ago and i have known her forever she is a very nice person.
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misocup
I just sometimes get so down, I have never experienced love in this cult even though I tired so hard to fit in. I know I am not alone, it just hurts sometimes at how hateful they can be.
Do they have a biblical reason for also including the children of the "marks" in on the shunning?
I was df'd in 86 and my children have been largely ignored by my family.
I remember hearing reasoning that since children of the ones who died in the flood died with the parents, (remember the awful image of the woman clutching her baby while being drowned by Jah? wasn't that in the children's book? those monsters) that meant that those children would probably have turned out like their parents. Could it be a similar reasoning? Like ignore the children, they will become just like the parents.
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How Did You Finally "Get Out Of Her" (JWs)??
by minimus inwhat situation(s) got you out of the organization, either mentally or physically or both?
what was your "last straw"?.
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misocup
truthseekeriam-
amen
may this organization and all those like it break down to dust
may all those hurt by this organization and all those like it find healing and renewed joy
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Any 'Humanists' here?
by AK - Jeff incare to share your particular weltanschauung ?.
how do you approach life in general?
how do you convey to others your opines on life, love and laughter?.
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humanism shmumanism
It's a pirates life for me............ Yaarrrr
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no more lurking...hello eveyone
by Evidently Apostate inabout a year ago i went through a mild meltdown.
it hit me fast i had panic attacks and became angry with all the control in my life.
(being a jw) i had just found out i was being screwed on a real estate development project by another self righteous jw i have known for a long time but this was a big loss (about 4 months pay plus expenses).
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misocup
Welcome! This forum has helped me a lot, I hope you find as much solace here. Hopefully your wife will come around.
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I can't believe how many people are leaving now...
by mac n cheese in(sorry if this is a double post - i haven't been on in awhile).
so spouse and i are completely inactive.
it's great!
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misocup
It's like moving to a foreign land. When you move there, you may not have any clue as to local customs and traditions but as time goes by you tend to adapt to them and while you may never fully appreciate it as the locals do, you learn to appreciate it enough to enjoy it with them and to respect their ways.
I have to grin at this. It's a great way to describe how it is when you get out.
I had the odd experience of trying to explain to my co-workers how when I was a child I tried to convince my parents that Santa was real based on the news reports we were getting of how they were tracking his sleigh on radar. lol
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How Did You Finally "Get Out Of Her" (JWs)??
by minimus inwhat situation(s) got you out of the organization, either mentally or physically or both?
what was your "last straw"?.
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misocup
One WT. or publication would state something but when you read the bound volume it was simply taken out as if the original was never said! In the late 70s, the WT. stated we would not see the end of this "century" which was a boneheaded statement. Later, that same year, it was changed and a different spin was put on.
This makes sense too. I remember wanting to hang on to bound volumes for years! I wanted them around because after all they are important right? well I was told that the WTS didn't like people keeping them that far back and never got an answer as to why but now I know!
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How Did You Finally "Get Out Of Her" (JWs)??
by minimus inwhat situation(s) got you out of the organization, either mentally or physically or both?
what was your "last straw"?.
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misocup
the WT at one time taught that Black people are an inferior race due to the curse Noah placed on Ham's grandson, Canaan.
It all makes sense now. I remember this being an issue when I was little (in the 60's). My Mom said it wasn't true, not only about the curse but that the WT taught it.
I wonder now if she knew about Jehovah being from the pleiades constellation. (ended in 1952 I think).
There were several things about the elders attitudes that did it for me. I remember one of our friends Charlie had a stroke at the age of 26 (in the 80's). He couldn't work and his family suffered financially. My husband and I would take them things sometimes but we didn't have much money. I told one of the elders that they needed help and he said that Charlie should have taken better care of his health. That same elder had an icy cold reaction when his stepson died in a car accident, I told him how sorry I was and he said "don't be, he was disfellowshipped". The elders in my hall were a bunch of bastards. One of them kept his house at 55 degrees to save money after quitting his job so they could pioneer. One was proud that he had taken his 6 week old son in the back and spanked him for crying. Weird, twisted, cruel, LUNATICS.
At my very first talk, the only comment I got was a criticism for having pronounced etcetera wrong. WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES!!! The holier than thou wives weren't any better. Always selling Shaklee or some other ridiculous miracle soap or vitamin.
Man I'm so glad I'm out I would NEVER go back, but I miss my Mom and my brothers!
My niece and sister in law died from fear of doctors and trying to treat diabetis with diet. My other sister in law called the chiropractor when my nephew had epiglotitis, nearly died and became confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Who calls the chiropractor when they have a fever of 106?? Only those with an irrational fear of doctors like the JW's. They believe that Satan uses the doctors to get at them.
OMG I could go on for hours!
The way they treat you when you hit a rough patch. Like when you get sick, or have financial problems. You might as well have leprosy! Try fading! You will quickly find out who your real friends are! My guess is none to zero.
People who have known you all your life will suddenly look at you like you are Satan himself!
I went to my nieces funeral and got a cruel reproval from the podium saying I would never see her again unless I came back. I would rather die and be forgotten that live that lunacy. Those fuckers, I nearly fainted leaving that day. Had it not been for my worldly evil husband grabbing me I would have fallen down the steps. He showed more kindness and love in that moment than all those people showed me in all those years growing up put together.
AAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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As a Man have your Attitudes Towards Women Changed since Exiting JW's ?
by flipper inbeing raised in the jehovah's witness cult - i saw so many times what would be referred to as " supportive wives " wait after meetings for an hour, two hours, even more until midnight for husbands who met in backrooms meeting to decide on judicial matters if some individual witness was righteous - or not.
wives of elders were expected to do this to show submission and alleged " respect " for the headship arrangement or eldership of their husbands !
incredible.
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misocup
Second-class citizens, little say over their own lives or decisions about their lives, yet still punished and held accountable equally.
