If you haven't read Textus Correctus, Perry, I fear for your soul.
nvrgnbk
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"Modern Bibles" Are Based on Wescott and Hort - Who Were They? Part I
by Perry inthese manuscripts were available to the king james translators but were rejected because of the thousands of disagreements with each other as well as disagreement with between 95% to 99% of all other ancient manuscripts.
additionally, they were very messy with many marginal notations and scratch outs, etc.
but even if they are, many have shown that older is not an adequate criteria for determining accuracy.
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Have you found a new bible translation you like?
by New light for you ini know, it seems like half of everyone that leaves turns athiest.... but for those of us out there, who figure on still being christian, have you found a translation of the bible that you belive lives "up to par"?
i'm really trying to research, but there's so many, i wondered if you had any input!.
thanks!.
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nvrgnbk
My current fave is The Best Good Book.
What I appreciate about it is that the translators strictly adhered to the famous Textus Correctus as their principal manuscript.
Coincidentally, I had just posted about it.
Why our Bible is the best! Here is an interesting Prologue I recently found while perusing Bibles at my local Christian bookstore...
As the Holy Scriptures that were meticulously transmitted to our ancient brethren form the basis of our undying faith in the Sovereign Lord Almighty, the importance of their accurate translation is of utmost concern to all of the consecrated. Tragically, The Enemy of Our Salvation, Satan, and his earthly agents have spared no effort in their attempts to adulterate the purest thoughts of the Most High. The means used were often so subtly insidious that it's only after the passage of centuries that contradictions in renderings and spurious verses have become apparent to the faithful. The publishers of this superior translation wish to assure all that caress its delicate pages in their blessed hands that its veracity has been procured painstakingly and with the assistance of the Holy Spirit Itself.
For the more erudite of our potential audience allow us to point out the many and varied reasons why the Lord has impelled us to declare our translation the pinnacle in the faithful communication of the Divine Message. The most important feature that will interest the most scholarly is that we depended wholly upon Textus Correctus in our version. All manuscripts deemed to conflict with Textus Correctus by our team, all sanctified men called to this monumental work by the Holy Spirit Itself, were cast aside as the leaven that they are.
For the less educated, let's make it clear that this Bible is the right one.
May the Lord God Almighty bless and keep all the faithful that accept only the best in Bible translation,
The Best Good Book Translation Team
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State truthful facts about Xians that make them look bad, weird, foolish
by nvrgnbk inyou don't need to exaggerate the foibles of xians to get the point across that they are not "the truth".
can you state some facts that show that xians are not "normal'' and that their religion is weird?.
does this make sense to you, minimus?
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nvrgnbk
Nvr doesn't hate Christians.
I love them!
We serve them on Wednesdays down at the AUS(Atheists United in Satan).
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How did you handle facing the reality of death?
by song19 infor those raised or who got the truth at a young age, how have you been able to handle the reality that you are in fact, eventually, going to die in this system?.
for me, this was a real hard reality check.
as a witness, my entire life i was convinced that i would see armageddon, that i wouldnt grow old and die.
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nvrgnbk
I just realized this as I was waking up from the cult.
I was 33 at the time.
It really does change everything.
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Genetic Material Possibly in Meteorite
by Satanus inhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080613/sc_afp/spacesciencebiochemistrybiology_080613180404 .
small bits of genetic material, or material used in the genetic structure, along w carbon 13 have been found in a meteorite that landed in australia a few yrs ago.
european and american scientists have been studying it, and concluded that the material was not pick up here, but is from outer space.
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"Modern Bibles" Are Based on Wescott and Hort - Who Were They? Part I
by Perry inthese manuscripts were available to the king james translators but were rejected because of the thousands of disagreements with each other as well as disagreement with between 95% to 99% of all other ancient manuscripts.
additionally, they were very messy with many marginal notations and scratch outs, etc.
but even if they are, many have shown that older is not an adequate criteria for determining accuracy.
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nvrgnbk
But, your world-view from an atheist lens just allows you too much latitude to play fast and loose with the truth.....
You're hilarious, dude!
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Abusive People On This Board...
by cognac inhow do you handle them?
i mean, sometimes they write things that are really hurtful!.
do you just ignore them altogether?
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nvrgnbk
Nevermind.
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Abusive People On This Board...
by cognac inhow do you handle them?
i mean, sometimes they write things that are really hurtful!.
do you just ignore them altogether?
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nvrgnbk
I'm sure it was very rood! However, there is no way I'm going to read that tonight, lol...
In that case, better not read it.
Just keep playing the victim.
And have lots and lots of babies that you mess up really bad.
It's a wonderful world.
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Abusive People On This Board...
by cognac inhow do you handle them?
i mean, sometimes they write things that are really hurtful!.
do you just ignore them altogether?
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nvrgnbk
I dedicate the following article to all those that are perpetual victims, picked on, wounded and attacked.
Yes I know, I'm a victimizer, love to pick on the weak and defenseless, wound and attack. Hell, I've even been called a predator.
But anyway, I hope some of this guy's thoughts are helpful to anyone that has just a shred of interest in ending the blame game and starting to take control of their life.
If you think I'm an asshole, you probably think more of me than my mother does, so it's cool.
Hack yourself!
You can be happy. You can live the life you want to live. You can become the person you want to be.
This is what I've figured out so far.
Stop assigning blame. This is the first step. Stop assigning blame and leave the past behind you.
You know whose fault it is that your life isn't perfect. Your boss. Your teachers. Your ex-lovers. The ones who hurt you, the ones who abused you, the ones who left you bleeding. Or even yourself. You know whose fault it is — you've been telling yourself your whole life. Knowing whose fault it is that your life sucks is an excellent way to absolve yourself of any reponsibility for taking your life into your own hands.
Forget about it. Let it go. The past isn't real. “That was in another country, and besides, the wench is dead.” If we're not talking about something that is real and present and in your life right now, then it doesn't matter. Nothing can be done about it. If nothing can be done about it, then don't spend your energy dwelling on it — you have other things to do.
I may sound cruel, I may sound simplistic, I may sound like I'm saying you should just “get over it,” by suggesting that you should let go of your past. I'm sorry for that. But life won't hold still and wait for you to lick your wounds. The race is still being run. Get up and keep moving. You can't do anything about yesterday.
You can do something about tomorrow. And about the next day. Focus your energies there.
“I don't have time to write.” “I can't dance.” “I can't talk to new people.” “I'm not attractive.”
I hear this all the time. I always hear the people around me sabotaging themselves, drawing lines and borders and boxes around themselves.
To which I say, make the time; dance; just talk to people; be attractive!
Yes, again, it's simplistic of me to say that. But it's simplistic of you to so easily say what you cannot do!
We're excellent pattern-matchers. That's what the human mind does — it's a pattern-matching engine. So we look at ourselves, at our history, at our behaviors, and we draw straight lines between the points — we assume that just because we've done things a certain way in the past, we'll always do them that way in the future. If we've failed before, we'll always fail.
Screw that.
Surprise yourself. No — amaze yourself.
You don't have to keep doing the things you hate. Why go home and beat yourself up for, say, not going over and saying a few words to someone you find really attractive? Can any damage they could do to you by rejecting you possibly be any worse than the damage you're going to do to yourself for missing the chance?
Find the demon.
Do you know what I'm talking about? It's the little voice in the back of your head that's always whispering, “You can't.” You know the demon. You may think you hate the demon, but you don't. You love it. You let it own you. You do everything it says. Everytime there's something you want, you consult the demon first, to see if it will say, “You can't have that.”
What you don't realize is that your demon doesn't know anything. It's an idiot. It's nothing but a parrot, repeating back to you anything negative that it's ever heard, anything that makes you hurt, makes you squirm. If a teacher once told you “You'll never accomplish anything,” it was listening; it hoards words like that and repeats them back to you to watch you jump. It doesn't know what it's saying. It doesn't care.
Exorcise yourself.
You can take me literally or not, as suits you. But do, please, the next time you hear that voice in your head, imagine it, visualize it, as something physical that you can get hold of; tear it out of you, feel its fingers weaken and lose their grip on your spine, and grind it to dust, to nothing, under your boot heel on your way out to dance in the streets.
You can. You think you can't; but it's telling you that. You can.
You don't exist.
You just think you do.
We're nothing but the stories we tell ourselves. We know in our hearts what kind of people we are, what we're capable of, because we've told ourselves what kind of people we are. You're a carefully-rehearsed list of weaknesses and strengths you've told yourself you have.
(Self-confidence, for example, is a particularly nebulous quality you can easily talk yourself out of having.)
You owe no allegiance to that self-image if it harms you. If you don't like the story your life has become — tell yourself a better one.
Think about the person you want to be and do what that person would do. Act the way that person would act.
Amazingly enough, once you start acting like that person, people will start treating you like that person.
And you'll start to believe it. And then it will be true.
Welcome to your new self.
You are a product of your environnent.
Most people realize this — usually, in the form of having something else to blame — but they tend to forget one important fact:
Humans are the masters of changing their environment.
What this means is that if your environment affects you, and you can affect your environment, then obviously, you can affect yourself.
- Your environment includes people. Figure out who in your life isn't good for you, whose presence tears you down more than it builds you up, whose nearness is poison to you — and get rid of them. Get them out of your life. I don't care if it's your best friend, your boss, your mother, your lover — if they are harming you, if they are doing nothing but reinforce everything bad you tell yourself about yourself, then your relationship with them needs to radically alter or it needs to end.
- Your environment includes goals. Don't set yourself pie-in-the-sky impossible goals and then beat yourself up over not achieving them — set yourself goals that will be good for you, not a source of pain. Attainable goals. Set them and meet them. Don't tell yourself you can't — that's the old story, that story you used to tell yourself about what a poor sad victim you were and how you could never change anything about your life. You can meet your goals. This is the new story.
Trying to clean your house? Good for you — a clean house can really affect your state of mind for the better. But don't say “Today I'm going to clean the entire house from top to bottom,” when you don't have the time and energy to — don't set yourself up for failure; don't feed the demon. Just say, “Today I'm going to wash all the dishes and clean off the kitchen counter.” And do it.
Don't tell yourself, “This month I'm going to write that novel.” Tell yourself, “Today I'm going to write five pages.” And do it. Take your dreams and break them down into small pieces and you'll have them in your hands before you know it.
And you'll find, as you start meeting your goals, that you like it. That it feels good, makes you feel confident and capable. You'll develop a hunger for it.
- Your environment includes yourself — your physical presence. Do what you know you need to do — treat yourself better. Sleep, eat right, exercise. This doesn't mean you have to stop staying out late at night now and then, it doesn't mean you can't have a candy bar, it doesn't mean you have to stop sitting around watching television — it just means start doing the things that are good for you as well as the things that are bad for you, every so often. It's not an all-or-nothing proposition; you don't have to devote your life to being a health nut. Just try eating more fruits and vegetables, the occasional vegetarian meal; go for walks in the park on the weekends. You'll feel better and be more alert if you're a little healthier, and once you start feeling a little better, you'll start wanting the things that make you feel better. You'll see.
- Your environment includes your appearance. If you're not happy with yourself, if you're angry with the person in the mirror, it can honestly help to literally change who you see when you look in the mirror. Try a different hairstyle, new glasses, new jewelry, new clothes. It doesn't have to be expensive — there's a whole universe full of possible You's waiting to be found in thrift stores, if need be. If you're deciding to become the person you want to be, then decide what that person is going to look like. Dress the part. It's not shallow, it's not about vanity, it's about self-transformation — even the most primitive tribes understand the value of costumes and masks for ritual, for change, for becoming someone else.
You are not an object. You are a system. Like with any system, if you change the inputs — change what goes into it — you'll change what comes out.
Despite everything I've just said:
Self-examination can be paralysis.
Don't “remember to breathe” — just breathe. It's a Tao thing.
It's the paradox at the center of all this — remember that, “Am I living up to being the person I want to be?”, is not a question the person you want to be would ask.
If I can leave you with just one thought, it's this:
Stop wasting your time fretting over not being happy.
Just be happy.
Michael Montoure is a writer and a web developer living in the Pacific Northwest.
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Worship Me
by changeling ini was bored.
after a countless eternity alone, i was bored.
we spent a few eons alone together so he could get to know me well.
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nvrgnbk
It seems strange that you would assume the modus operandi of that which you condemn.
You misunderstand, Carlos.
If the prophets of old pointed to the silence of the gods they mocked as proof of their impotence/nonexistence, and it was recorded in the Bible to strengthen faith in their god, why is the modern day silence of their god ignored as insignificant?