I know that some primates have a certain level of self awarness, so do elephants, dolphins and orcas they may be others. The thing with dolphins and orcas is that they do not have a frontal lobe like humans and primates. The frontal lobe is were they speculate that the self awarness is generated ,so dolphins and orcas ( and elephants but I'm not certain) brains fonction very diferently then primates and humans. I think this is very interesting.
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Count-Down 7: Self Awareness and the Soul
by Amazing inno one has ever been able to explain to me just how we, as products of evolution, can possibly have sentience and self awareness.
(i understand and accept that humans evolved.
how come i am aware that i am jim whitney, a middle aged male, instead of being a young female named sarah smith?
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Please "Study" With Jehovah's Witnesses, I beg you!
by AK - Jeff inif you are a former jw, or just one who is interested enough in the cult to spend time here on jwd, i emplore you to accept a 'bible study' with jehovah's witnesses when they next call and offer.
by so doing, and having of course a full knowledge of the doctrines and practices they employ, you have a special opportunity!
you can use the study for the following;.
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jgnat,
My heart told me, and I told her, that she was going to get this girl out with love. "Just love her" I told her.
I agree and I also agree with the ask one or two questions approach but I think it's good to have many questions prepared.
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Please "Study" With Jehovah's Witnesses, I beg you!
by AK - Jeff inif you are a former jw, or just one who is interested enough in the cult to spend time here on jwd, i emplore you to accept a 'bible study' with jehovah's witnesses when they next call and offer.
by so doing, and having of course a full knowledge of the doctrines and practices they employ, you have a special opportunity!
you can use the study for the following;.
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I thought of this also but I will try it wen I move to a place were nobody knows me. I would like to have a list of those questions.
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How does the Ransom Sacrifice work? A Primer
by Terry inin judaism, only the offended party can forgive you your sin.
you must make amends or pay a fine.
that is why murder cannot be forgiven; the deceased is not around to accept your apology or restitution!.
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is that Jesus had the potential to marry and father a perfect human race that would of eventually been equal in number to the imperfect human race that Adam fathered. So when Jesus died, a potential perfect human race died in his loins with him.
For that to be true, should there be a perfect woman also?
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Did God ever Exist?
by found-my-way inreading so many posts on atheism which is the belief that there is no god, and reading comments from creationists made me ponder if there was an alternate reason for our existence.. if god is up there, why does he permit suffering?
if i were god, i wouldn't of let it happen in the first place, these are my children, why would i let them suffer?
maybe i am influenced by my creationist upbringing and beliefs while a jw, because i find it hard to wrap my brain around the idea that everything came from nothing.
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On our very best day, our good is as filthy rags to God. Why? It's because of the sin principle not because of the good acts. It includes our motives and our desire to self exalt, and to hold up snipets of good as if it can redeem or wash away the bad that we practice. There are many layers of it, and it is deceptive by nature. Our good acts do deliver temporary relief and does have value. It is the wrong direction for identity though, because the basic design of the man/woman is one of being and not one of doing.
So you are saying that we are responsible for our sinfull nature?
The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord
1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love. Perfect love drives out fear.
Not because God wants it for some arbitrary reason. It is because it is required as a comunique between our two species. For example, think of children that cannot be given a sharp knife despite their protests. They must take it on faith that we know better as adults because of our "infinite" more experience.... even though they can clearly see it as a superior tool than their toys. If they disobey, they will get punished. But things run much smoother if they take it on faith.
Now I thought we are not the children of god?
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty.
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command.
There are some things here that can tell us definitely where the answer cannot be found. The primary source that this answer cannot be found is from ourselves. As a finite sinner, a liar, etc. it is impossible to judge the Lord either experientially or morally. Experientially, because his experience is infinitely different than ours, and morally because of the sin principle. This is why faith is absolutely essential
I'm sorry but I don't see this in the bible and that's only a few examples, so if I'm judging it's the god of the bible that I'm judging.
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Did God ever Exist?
by found-my-way inreading so many posts on atheism which is the belief that there is no god, and reading comments from creationists made me ponder if there was an alternate reason for our existence.. if god is up there, why does he permit suffering?
if i were god, i wouldn't of let it happen in the first place, these are my children, why would i let them suffer?
maybe i am influenced by my creationist upbringing and beliefs while a jw, because i find it hard to wrap my brain around the idea that everything came from nothing.
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Perry, do you want to anwser my question?
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Did God ever Exist?
by found-my-way inreading so many posts on atheism which is the belief that there is no god, and reading comments from creationists made me ponder if there was an alternate reason for our existence.. if god is up there, why does he permit suffering?
if i were god, i wouldn't of let it happen in the first place, these are my children, why would i let them suffer?
maybe i am influenced by my creationist upbringing and beliefs while a jw, because i find it hard to wrap my brain around the idea that everything came from nothing.
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Without the bible (or other "holy book"), sin is meaningless. It's a little bit like our concept of injustice, but unlike a real injustice it doesn't have to have a victim. Activities that involve and affect only informed consenting adults can never be considered injustices, but they can be considered sins. Depending on a person's interpretation of their particular holy book
Yes, I know and that's my point but I wanted to see if perry understood that. He often uses the "sin" factor as an argument.
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Word/image Association: What does "Rainbow" make you think of?
by gaiagirl ina jw who works where i work saw a new age cd with an image of a rainbow on the cover, and immediately said "this is homosexual".
is this a widespread feeling among jw's, or fundamentalists in general?
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Makes me think of rain and sunshine.
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Were you a "Born-In", or were you "Converted"?
by Warlock ini was converted in the early 1980's.. warlock .
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Born-in, beated up and faded out..
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Did God ever Exist?
by found-my-way inreading so many posts on atheism which is the belief that there is no god, and reading comments from creationists made me ponder if there was an alternate reason for our existence.. if god is up there, why does he permit suffering?
if i were god, i wouldn't of let it happen in the first place, these are my children, why would i let them suffer?
maybe i am influenced by my creationist upbringing and beliefs while a jw, because i find it hard to wrap my brain around the idea that everything came from nothing.
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The biggest difference
that one could say between the two ideologies is one brings power, control and money and the other does absolutely nothing. Mysticism is imagination supported by ignorance in the human
mind, this separates itself from reality and conclusion. Perhaps if men were to finally walk away from their gods and walk toward humanity together we would be better off, I think so.
Wow!! I could not have said it any better.