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  If we are "free". Why are we still debating?

  by tapout1 in

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  this question is for all of us who were ever associated with the wts.

  baptized, ministerial servants, elders, pioneers, etc, etc.

  why is it that a lot of us call ourselves "free" when in fact we keep debating, putting down, hating, examining, analizing everything the wts does, did and will do?

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  journey-on

  I'm on JWD because I want to help others work through the psychological pain this org causes. Our experiences can be useful to others who need to vent to someone that's been there and done that and will understand what issues they are trying to deal with. Not everyone can afford $200 an hour for professional therapy, and sometimes "kitchen" psychology works as good or better imho.

  Plus, after a few posts you develope "friendships" and it's nice to continue those on a forum like this. You find all kinds of interesting people with interesting ways of looking at things and you begin to see how the WTS skewed our personalities and affected our lives.
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  Taking predictions for the 2007 memorial partakers!!

  by cultswatter in

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  i'm doing this well in advance so that all the wonderful people on jwd can look back later and see just how close they were to the actual number!

  (it is possible the wts might stop publishing the partaker numbers) in a few days, i will duly record the link to this thread for future reference.. remember that there were 8524 partakers in 2005 and 8758 partakers in 2006, an increase of 234 partakers.

  so how many remnant will partake in 2007??.

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  journey-on

  When do they usually announce the number for 2007 partakers?
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  What Have You Learned From JWD?

  by minimus in

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  what have you taken from being here on this site?

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  journey-on

  That apostates are not stupid, demonized, vicious, lying, cruel, vomit-eaters! But, rather, most are highly intelligent, free-thinking, kind, loving, concerned, truth seekers.
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  Why do people choose to d'assoc by letter instead of just fading?

  by journey-on in

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  i simply gradually quit going.

  of course, this was many years ago and maybe the "rules" have changed, but rather than create drama among my family, i just let them think i was becoming materialistic and spiritually weak.

  at least it kept them talking and associating with me rather than cutting me off.

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  journey-on

  One more thing, I had never heard of "fading".

  I never heard of it either till I started reading posts on JWD. I didn't know that's what I had done. I just thought I laid low and played it cool till I was off their radar and they just didn't concern themselves with me anymore.
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  Why do people choose to d'assoc by letter instead of just fading?

  by journey-on in

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  2. friends

  i simply gradually quit going.

  of course, this was many years ago and maybe the "rules" have changed, but rather than create drama among my family, i just let them think i was becoming materialistic and spiritually weak.

  at least it kept them talking and associating with me rather than cutting me off.

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  journey-on

  I have so enjoyed reading your responses. The reasons given are as varied as the posters giving them. As I read these, it occurred to me that one individual disassociating him/herself probably doesn't mean much to the overall organization, but adding your one letter to the collective is probably very significant indeed.

  I wish there was a way to know just how many da each year. I'm sure that's not a figure they'll publish any time soon.
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  In your "opinion" are "DF" treated worse than "DA" ex-jws? Are equally?

  by booker-t in

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  when i was growing up in the 70's you rarely heard about "so and so" has "disassociated" themselves and are no longer one of jw's.

  that was how i remember a jw's sister being announced as "da" in 1975. her family and my family were best friends and it sent chills down my family's back.

  i was very young and i kept asking my mom, "can we speak to sister x-witness" "is sister x-witness still a jw's" "will she be destroyed at armaggeddon?

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  journey-on

  When I was a in the org, I never even remember hearing the term "disassociated". I only remember a few disfellowshipped witnesses and that was for "conduct unbecoming a Christian" which I don't think they can say anymore. Most of the df's were for immorality or drunkenness, not apostasy. I always kept up with everything because my family were all strong JWs, but I don't remember hearing of anybody writing a letter to disassociate themselves from the congregation.
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  Why choose DA instead of fade?

  by White Dove in

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  i'm having a hard time figuring out if i should da or continue to fade.

  i am doing a lot of the things they could df me for and kind of want to beat them to the punch and quit looking over my shoulder, but i'm afraid that if i da, my grandparents will find out.

  they live in a different state.

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  journey-on

  Wow! This is weird, White Dove. I just posted the exact same topic.
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  Why do people choose to d'assoc by letter instead of just fading?

  by journey-on in

  1. jw
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  i simply gradually quit going.

  of course, this was many years ago and maybe the "rules" have changed, but rather than create drama among my family, i just let them think i was becoming materialistic and spiritually weak.

  at least it kept them talking and associating with me rather than cutting me off.

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  journey-on

  I simply gradually quit going. Of course, this was many years ago and maybe the "rules" have changed, but rather than create drama among my family, I just let them think I was becoming materialistic and spiritually weak. At least it kept them talking and associating with me rather than cutting me off. Things are changing now though. I guess the WTS is cracking down on them. But I always wondered why people write a letter of disassociation rather than just stop going.
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  My Mom died yesterday

  by skeptic1914 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mom passed away yesterday.

  she was a die-hard jw.

  i tried to explain why i couldn't accept certain teachings but rather than rationally consider what i had to say she chose to believe i was just "confused".

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  journey-on

  I'm sorry for your loss. I know how it hurts for your parents to pass away.
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  Banning Guns

  by Descender in

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  i was wondering about this article that i was reading.

  http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?snav=nr&id=570 is it real?

  does it come from a reliable source.

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  journey-on

  I dont think you can compare Amerika to any other countries situation as Amerika is unique.

  This is so true. But I don't think people really understand how much different it is. (BTW, why did you spell America with a "k" in it? Just curious.)