If they are suicide cults, won't they die out pretty quickly anyway?
Eyebrow
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Cult Fighters are short sighted fools
by proplog2 inthe anti-cultists are narrow minded and uninformed to say the least.. you see a lot of this here.
it is mostly a cover for irrational hatred.
most religions organized in a way that they expected their members to take their beliefs seriously.
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terrorist tragedy and silent lambs
by wasasister indear friends:.
i've hesitated to bring this up before, lest it sound heartless, however:.
will the overwhelming media attention generated by last tuesdays events and the eminent threat of war divert attention away from the importance of the upcoming dateline expose?
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Eyebrow
I bet Conduit is relieved to have the heat off him for a while...though I am sure he is not happy as to why the media are not paying attention to him.
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I got invited to a party, should i go?
by jurs inhello guys,.
i must say that being labeled an apostate has made my life quite interesting.
i'm shunned every day at cosmetology school and the town i live in is small and i run into jw's all the time.
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Eyebrow
I don't think you should not go just because it is a Mary Kay party. I have had plenty of friends in the past that have had Mary Kay, Tupperware, Pampered Chef, etc., other type sales parties for the excuse to get together. No one felt they had to buy, and it was usually fun. Remember, without holidays and birthdays, etc., some people feel there is no excuse to have get togethers.
Call your friend and ask her if there will be JWs there and let her know that you don't want it to be ackward for you or her. If you really considered this person a friend, I say go. If she studied long enough to know how JWs are supposed to shun people, then she is being gutsy inviting you because she misses you and doesn't want to shun you.
If you don't want to go, just call her and ask if you can get together for coffee or something. It sounds like she misses you too. I would give her the benefit of doubt.
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Blood, DPA Question ... how do you void?
by karen7680 insince leaving the organization, i never gave any thought to the blood issue or the dpa (durable healthcare power of attorney)that i signed 3 or 4 years ago.
now that i have surgery scheduled in 3 and a half months ... one in which the surgeons will have a high degree of bleeding to control, it has been on my mind a lot.. it got me to thinking about how my dpa is technically still in effect and my jw mother and my elder brother-in-law have medical say if i am not able to express my wishes.
my question is ... how do you officially void a dpa?
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Eyebrow
What you need to do is have a conversation with your doctor and do a new durable power of attorney. Most hospitals have DPA forms that you can complete. If you do it ahead of time, and make sure that your doctor has a copy there should be no question.
I would also recommend telling your parents about this so that they will not have to wonder how you feel. Several years ago my sister, who had not attended a meeting in years, got in a horrible car accident. She needed a blood transfusion, and it was a very hard decision for my mother because she was not sure how my sister felt. Since my sister was living a very "worldly" life (actually, she was a heavy drinker and partier) and was never baptised, my mother decided not to make an issue of her receiving blood. I would hate for your family to have to make a decision and not be sure of what you really want. Doing a new DPA will take the onus of your family and make your wishes clear.
Thanks for posting this...althought I DO have a nonJW husband, I have not done a dpa and don't think I have made myself clear to my mom. If my hsuband and I were to ever get into an accident together, my mom would most likely be the one they would ask.
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Pre-partum/ Post-partum depression......
by LDH inwell let's hear it gals.
has either one ever affected you?.
i,for one, am having a case of pre-partum blues, specifically because i'm having the pregnancy from hell.. i'm ready to hear any advice y'all have.. lisa
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Eyebrow
Maybe I should send him for mango instead.
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Pre-partum/ Post-partum depression......
by LDH inwell let's hear it gals.
has either one ever affected you?.
i,for one, am having a case of pre-partum blues, specifically because i'm having the pregnancy from hell.. i'm ready to hear any advice y'all have.. lisa
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Eyebrow
I actually like cantelope...may have to send the hubby to the store for some tonight.
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relationships and relatives
by butalbee infor the last 7 months i have been involved in a "friendship" with a jw.
he really was my best friend, who i felt i could confide in and trust with my life.
i have to admit that i have never felt as close to another person before in my life, it was as though we were on the same level--he would finish my sentences, know what i was thinking, and feeling.
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Eyebrow
What kind of place do you work at that his brother can come in and harrass you like that???
If you really think the world of this guy, show him some respect and tell him the complete truth. Maybe things will work out for you two, but maybe not. However, you are not being any more honest with him than his bastard brother is. How can he make a honest decision if he is being lied to by his brother and kept in the dark by you?
Hold your chin high and tell the truth. If you do not tell him the complete truth and he does end up with you, you will always have this hanging over your head.
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no kids policy
by Daisymay inhas anyone else heard of the org.
convincing couples not to have children since this world is so "evil" and armagedon was coming so soon and why not wait until after it is over?.
many new couples were told this and those families that kept conceiving were talked about behind their backs.... daisy
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Eyebrow
Funny thing....the Shakers have practically died out because they don't have kids...they just would adopt them.
I remeber talking to one brother while we were in field service one day about this issue. He and his wife had decided against having children before they got married, but about a year into their marriage she told him she had changed her mind. When he asked her, but what about we had decided before we got married? She told him that it would be bad enough that if one of them died they would not be married in the new system. Having a child together would be something that would create an eternal bond, even if one or both of them did not survive armageddon. He couldn't argue with that, and so they had a kid. I thought that was a pretty beautiful sentiment.
Then I asked him, but why did you have two? He said, "Well, it's not really fair to have just one. The kid needs a sibling!"
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Bethel rules... fables or truth...
by MrMoe incan you all enlighten me, i have heard certain "bethel rules" and wanted to find out if they are fact or fiction.
1. only one item on any surface at any time (a phone or lamp etc.. as long as it is just 1 item.).
2. allowance of $80 a month for toiletries etc... (has that allowance gone up).
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Eyebrow
Speaking of Bethel....
Does anyone else here remember the Watchtower study article several years ago that talked about physical cleanliness, and used Bethel as an example that we should all follow? I remember sitting, thinking, yeah, it sure would be easy to keep my apartment clean if someone else was doing all my and my son's laundry, and fixing the food too. -
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Bethel rules... fables or truth...
by MrMoe incan you all enlighten me, i have heard certain "bethel rules" and wanted to find out if they are fact or fiction.
1. only one item on any surface at any time (a phone or lamp etc.. as long as it is just 1 item.).
2. allowance of $80 a month for toiletries etc... (has that allowance gone up).
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Eyebrow
I know this guy that believes all the strick rules they say Bethel has, even the ones that everyone else knows are not true. Raising his son, he told him he was supposed to have his room immaculate like they do at Bethel...and had all these other expectations that were too strict for the poor kid. Of course he did not let his son have worldy friends, or an extrac activity.
His son is now in his early twenties and serving time for dealing drugs. Talk about pushing your kid to the other end of the spectrum.